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Old September 20 2012, 06:18 PM   #121
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Re: Ewww.. SGU let's have some freaking protocol

The ship never had the power to last 1000 years. If Eli messed up like that then they'd all die.

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Thing is, presumably incometant people are not selected by the military to take part in a top secret project that gets billions of dollars of funding, and incompetant people defnitely are not selected to serve on a base on a different planet.

Okay, so none of them were prepared to end up on the ass end of the universe and it wasn't what they signed up for. Truth is, they should still be among the best of their respective fields and therefore not "the wrong people for the job." Ture, they're not the experts characters in the other Stargates are, but they're not total novices either.
But... being competent to run a scientific facility built by Earth and being competent to explore the universe and work with alien technology are not even close to being the same thing. It's like criticizing a plumber for his crappy electric work.
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Old September 21 2012, 02:55 AM   #122
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Well, yes, I suppose. But everyone involved in the Stargate program has some sort of working knowledge of Ancient technology. And if push came to shove, the Atlantis database must have something about Destiny that should prove useful.

For that matter, why didn't anyone look up Destiny in the Atlantis database. It was the database where they found the nine chevron address, presumably they must have something in there about the ship. Even if for some reason there wasn't they could have thrown in a line. For example, in Seizure have McKay go on about how strange it is that there's nothing in the database about Destiny.
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Old September 21 2012, 08:30 AM   #123
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Tens of Thousands if not millions of years could have passed between Destiny and the city ships. As the ancients looked elsewhere such as into Ascension, Destiny could simple have been forgotten about, lost or destroyed. Given the possible timescales invovled it's really not that suprising that something might have been lost/overlooked/forgotten about etc...
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Old September 21 2012, 09:33 AM   #124
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Ask the kids today what's the name of the Voyager mission after describing it, no one will know.
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Old September 21 2012, 07:04 PM   #125
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And to think by the end 2014, Voyager 1 might enter Interstellar space.
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Old September 21 2012, 08:39 PM   #126
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Tens of Thousands if not millions of years could have passed between Destiny and the city ships. As the ancients looked elsewhere such as into Ascension, Destiny could simple have been forgotten about, lost or destroyed. Given the possible timescales invovled it's really not that suprising that something might have been lost/overlooked/forgotten about etc...
Fine. But that could have been mentioned in the show. One line, say in Serizure. Have McKay say something along the lines of "you know, it's funny. We've been all through the database in Atlantis and there's no mention of this ship at all."
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Old September 21 2012, 08:41 PM   #127
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I'm pretty sure it was said at some point in the show that Destiny was way older than any Ancient technology they had yet come across.

I mean, I assume the Ancients were a fairly large civilization. For all we know, Destiny was the pet project of some super wealthy Alterran businessman.
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Old September 21 2012, 10:54 PM   #128
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Plus had they really been through all the databases in Atlantis? It seems they were constantly discovering new chunks of that place.
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Old September 21 2012, 11:46 PM   #129
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What, the Ancients never invented a search engine? No one bothered to enter in Destiny and see what results popped up?
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Old September 21 2012, 11:49 PM   #130
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What, the Ancients never invented a search engine? No one bothered to enter in Destiny and see what results popped up?
Considering what we know of the Ancients, they probably thought they evolved passed the need to use them and didn't make one for the Atlantis database.
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Old September 22 2012, 12:31 AM   #131
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What, the Ancients never invented a search engine? No one bothered to enter in Destiny and see what results popped up?
Maybe they did, and maybe nothing came up. Just because the database came from the Ancients doesn't mean that it contains every single thing the Ancients ever did.
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Old September 22 2012, 05:35 AM   #132
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According to Thor the Asgard had been studying an Ancient repository of knowledge for as long as he could remember, and they had 'barely scratched the surface'. It's also possible that something like the Destiny was lost in time. I mean, this is millions of years of history we're talking about. Then again, wasn't the address found in Atlantis' database?
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Old September 22 2012, 10:12 AM   #133
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They got the name Destiny from the ship itself, as languages evolve and change over time the name Destiny might not be correct in the Atlantis Database.
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Old September 22 2012, 01:42 PM   #134
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Then again, wasn't the address found in Atlantis' database?
Indeed it was. Most of the time, the datbase had some sort of info about the destination.
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Old September 22 2012, 05:04 PM   #135
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If the Atlantis database was like wikipedia, over the course of a million years it would've accumulated 50 million pages on new teenage pop sensations, a hundred pages on teen singers and bands named "Destiny", but only three pages on "Destiny (Starship)", and two of them would still be about bands.
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