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Old September 17 2012, 02:08 PM   #346
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That, plus he might have set up shop while they were still in Stockton, unless there was dialog I missed somewhere along the line.
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Old September 18 2012, 08:22 PM   #347
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Dawn's fate was the most uncomfortable I've ever been watching this show since probably as far back as Donna. Gut-wrenching stuff, right there. So, Opie vs. Tig: who is the most damaged now?

Kurt Sutter tortures his characters at the same rate Joss Whedon kills his off, it seems.
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Old September 19 2012, 08:19 PM   #348
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Put Clay into an old people's home. Its pathethetic. When was the last time he got laid?
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Old September 20 2012, 03:06 AM   #349
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If it wasnt for the scene in the premiere where he couldnt get on his bike I would have thought Clay to be faking most of his recovery.
Glad Ope has come back in.
I couldnt read the important papers the guys lifted from the safe except one was a birth certificate and the other a marriage license. Anyone make out the names on those documents?
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Old September 20 2012, 07:54 AM   #350
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The birth certificate was for Thomas, Jax's brother. The marriage certificate was for Gemma's marriage. I could make out her name but not the rest very clearly, I assume her marriage to John. Now, why are the new guys raiding Charming. Could they be working for the CIA, too?
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Old September 20 2012, 01:59 PM   #351
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Thanks Kodos.
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Old September 20 2012, 05:54 PM   #352
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Gov Kodos wrote: View Post
The birth certificate was for Thomas, Jax's brother. The marriage certificate was for Gemma's marriage. I could make out her name but not the rest very clearly, I assume her marriage to John. Now, why are the new guys raiding Charming. Could they be working for the CIA, too?
The most common speculation I'm seeing is that they're working for Clay. As for why, well... I haven't really connected those dots yet.
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Old September 20 2012, 06:23 PM   #353
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What could Clay gain from this? Do the robbers take away valuable stuff? If not how would Clay pay them.
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Old September 20 2012, 09:39 PM   #354
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The birth certificate was for Thomas, Jax's brother. The marriage certificate was for Gemma's marriage. I could make out her name but not the rest very clearly, I assume her marriage to John. Now, why are the new guys raiding Charming. Could they be working for the CIA, too?
The most common speculation I'm seeing is that they're working for Clay. As for why, well... I haven't really connected those dots yet.
I'm doubtful it's Clay behind them since he knows what was in there and could have cleaned out the safe himself at any time. I wonder if they are working for Parada and the CIA. They might be looking for background information on Clay and the club leadership as part of a developing plan B. Less likely, they could be getting information for Pope, but there's nothing but idle speculation to that idea based on Pope striking out at the family of the SOA leadership.
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Old September 21 2012, 01:51 AM   #355
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That's a good theory...but I'm in the camp that thinks Clay is pulling the strings. I think he left valuable information in the safe to make it look like he has suffered a hit as well, while he is actually making one last power play. Yes, he has been hurt, but he isn't totally broken yet.
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Old September 21 2012, 02:13 AM   #356
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I could of sworn it was the new Samcro member played by Chuck Zito sitting shotgun in the car before the safe was dumped. Clay's totally behind it i think, twice in the show we come to him sitting alone and drinking like he's plotting.
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Old September 21 2012, 08:32 AM   #357
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I could of sworn it was the new Samcro member played by Chuck Zito sitting shotgun in the car before the safe was dumped. Clay's totally behind it i think, twice in the show we come to him sitting alone and drinking like he's plotting.
It's the three nomads with the safe and papers. It would add to votes to keep Clay in the club if they are working for him or beholding to him. And Unser is sure that the attack on the house wasn't the Niners because they didn't overdo it on him and probably didn't even say much. Just got in and got the safe. I guess where those papers show up later will be interesting.
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Old September 21 2012, 09:08 AM   #358
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Yeah, the whole point of showing the prosthetic limb during the invasion was to tell us, the audience, that it was Kurt Yaeger's character, who is one of the new recruits. I'm not sure how Unser could have missed it though; he's a trained cop and should have picked up on it even as he's getting a beating.
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Old September 21 2012, 09:11 AM   #359
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Yeah, the whole point of showing the prosthetic limb during the invasion was to tell us, the audience, that it was Kurt Yaeger's character, who is one of the new recruits. I'm not sure how Unser could have missed it though; he's a trained cop and should have picked up on it even as he's getting a beating.
He may not have missed it, hence his talking to Eli, but he can't prove it nor who's behind it if he did reconize the attacker by the limb. On the other hand, the guys came in real quick, so he may not have noticed the limb or may recall it later. We don't know yet if he's seen the Nomad members, I don't think.
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Old September 26 2012, 11:06 AM   #360
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Wow, Opie, I guess there weren't a lot of directions the character had left. Get out of the club all together or come to a bad end. But that was, wow, brutal.
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