There's no one like Kubrick

HaplessCrewman · August 30 2012, 02:44 AM

Awesome video on Kubrick's One-Point Perspective shot.

http://vimeo.com/48425421

There will never be another Stanley Kubrick movie but his influence is undeniable.

My favorite recent "Kubrick" movie is There Will Be Blood by P.T. Anderson. Can anyone think of others?

Harvey · August 30 2012, 05:44 PM

I like P.T. Anderson, but he has a way to go before his voice is as distinctive as Kubrick's. The closest figure in contemporary cinema to Kubrick is probably Terrence Malick, although in many ways he's Kubrick's complete opposite in terms of the stories he likes to tell.

And kogonada is the best video essayist I've seen online, at least relating to film/television. His/Her videos make style, which isn't always easy to detect, seem obvious.

JarodRussell · August 30 2012, 06:17 PM

HaplessCrewman wrote:

There will never be another Stanley Kubrick movie but his influence is undeniable.

Kubrick invented the 1-point perspective?

foxhot · August 30 2012, 06:32 PM

Most view Anderson as more Altmanesque than Kubrickian, given their mutual penchant for larger ensemble casts. After getting used to that approach, the one-man-show of THERE WILL BE BLOOD took some getting used to.

Some might scoff, but I think WATCHMEN is Kubrickian in its scope, if not in its strict approach....it's ambitious anyhow.

Drago-Kazov · September 20 2012, 06:21 PM

Was anybody capable of making a good movie for every genre the same way Kubrick was?

Harvey · September 20 2012, 06:32 PM

Ernest Lehman, who mostly worked as a screenwriter, had enough range to write the screenplays for excellent musicals (West Side Story) as well as excellent examples of the suspense genre (North by Northwest).

As far as directors go, though, I'd have to think about it. Martin Scorsese has certainly been successful in multiple genres.

CorporalCaptain · September 20 2012, 07:09 PM

Steven Spielberg has certainly been successful in multiple genres, even if not in every genre.

J.T.B. · September 20 2012, 07:51 PM

My genre categories may not line up with everyone's, but:

Robert Wise did historical drama, disaster, musical, horror, thriller, war, science fiction, and crime. I can't think of a comedy off hand.

Robert Altman did period drama, contemporary drama, fantasy, comedy, thriller, mystery, science fiction, musical, western and crime.

John Ford did period drama, biopic, current-event drama, documentary, war, romance and of course western. Borderline on comedy and mystery and no real musical but there was so much song and dance in Ford movies that one critic said they felt like long trailers for imaginary musicals.

Justin

CorporalClegg · September 20 2012, 08:03 PM

But Kubrick did Tom Cruise p0rn.

Drago-Kazov · September 20 2012, 08:11 PM

He considered doing a porn movie but gave it up.

Gaith · September 20 2012, 08:16 PM

Well, I just mentioned this one:

Would make (ideally the second half of) a great erotic-noir double-bill with Eyes Wide Shut. May not have quite the same mythic flair, but it is almost as trippy, and also has a not-entirely dissimilar carnivalesque aspect, to boot.

JarodRussell · September 20 2012, 09:09 PM

CorporalCaptain wrote:

Steven Spielberg has certainly been successful in multiple genres, even if not in every genre.

The thing about Spielberg that fascinates me so much is that each of his films is different. I wouldn't know that Indiana Jones was made by the same guy that did Schindler's List, and that Jurassic Park is from the same guy that did Minority Report, and that Jaws is from the same guy that did ET, and so forth...

foxhot · September 20 2012, 10:39 PM

I'm glad that SCHINDLER'S LIST was made by the director of JURASSIC PARK, but I'm disgusted JURASSIC PARK was made by the director of SCHINDLER'S LIST. To put it politely, take away the SPFX of PARK and what are you really left with? A good John Williams score, sure, but where's the story?

MacLeod · September 20 2012, 10:50 PM

Not every film is a "Schindler's List", just take JP for what it was a summer blockbuster.

JarodRussell · September 20 2012, 10:52 PM

That non-sensical argument again.

The story is that a rich business man clones dinosaurs to create a fun park. Investors force him to have the park evaluated by a group of experts. Meanwhile, a competitor orders dinosaur embryos to be stolen from the labs. During the theft, things go wrong, and the dinosaurs are set free, while the people in the park are trapped. It's about dinosaurs. But it could have been about lions as well with basically the same story. What do the visual effects have to do with that?

And why is that less of a story than "Shark shows up and a sheriff tries to kill it" or "archeologist and Nazis search for a magic treasure" or "business man tries to save people from death"?

August 30 2012, 02:44 AM	#1
HaplessCrewman Lieutenant Commander Location: Office of Scientific Intelligence	There's no one like Kubrick Awesome video on Kubrick's One-Point Perspective shot. http://vimeo.com/48425421 There will never be another Stanley Kubrick movie but his influence is undeniable. My favorite recent "Kubrick" movie is There Will Be Blood by P.T. Anderson. Can anyone think of others? __________________ Better than he was before. Better...stronger...faster.

August 30 2012, 05:44 PM	#2
Harvey Admiral	Re: There's no one like Kubrick I like P.T. Anderson, but he has a way to go before his voice is as distinctive as Kubrick's. The closest figure in contemporary cinema to Kubrick is probably Terrence Malick, although in many ways he's Kubrick's complete opposite in terms of the stories he likes to tell. And kogonada is the best video essayist I've seen online, at least relating to film/television. His/Her videos make style, which isn't always easy to detect, seem obvious. __________________ "What do you hear, Starbuck?" "Nothing but the rain, sir." "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat."

August 30 2012, 06:32 PM	#4
foxhot Captain Location: maryland	Re: There's no one like Kubrick Most view Anderson as more Altmanesque than Kubrickian, given their mutual penchant for larger ensemble casts. After getting used to that approach, the one-man-show of THERE WILL BE BLOOD took some getting used to. Some might scoff, but I think WATCHMEN is Kubrickian in its scope, if not in its strict approach....it's ambitious anyhow.

September 20 2012, 06:21 PM	#5
Drago-Kazov Fleet Captain	Re: There's no one like Kubrick Was anybody capable of making a good movie for every genre the same way Kubrick was?

September 20 2012, 06:32 PM	#6
Harvey Admiral	Re: There's no one like Kubrick Ernest Lehman, who mostly worked as a screenwriter, had enough range to write the screenplays for excellent musicals (West Side Story) as well as excellent examples of the suspense genre (North by Northwest). As far as directors go, though, I'd have to think about it. Martin Scorsese has certainly been successful in multiple genres. __________________ "What do you hear, Starbuck?" "Nothing but the rain, sir." "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat."

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September 20 2012, 07:09 PM	#7
CorporalCaptain Vice Admiral Location: In pre-production	Re: There's no one like Kubrick Steven Spielberg has certainly been successful in multiple genres, even if not in every genre. __________________ John

September 20 2012, 07:51 PM	#8
J.T.B. Commodore	Re: There's no one like Kubrick My genre categories may not line up with everyone's, but: Robert Wise did historical drama, disaster, musical, horror, thriller, war, science fiction, and crime. I can't think of a comedy off hand. Robert Altman did period drama, contemporary drama, fantasy, comedy, thriller, mystery, science fiction, musical, western and crime. John Ford did period drama, biopic, current-event drama, documentary, war, romance and of course western. Borderline on comedy and mystery and no real musical but there was so much song and dance in Ford movies that one critic said they felt like long trailers for imaginary musicals. Justin

September 20 2012, 08:03 PM	#9
CorporalClegg Vice Admiral Location: Nuevo México	Re: There's no one like Kubrick But Kubrick did Tom Cruise p0rn.

September 20 2012, 08:11 PM	#10
Drago-Kazov Fleet Captain	Re: There's no one like Kubrick He considered doing a porn movie but gave it up.

September 20 2012, 08:16 PM	#11
Gaith Rear Admiral Location: Starfleet Command, The City that Knows How	Re: There's no one like Kubrick Well, I just mentioned this one: Would make (ideally the second half of) a great erotic-noir double-bill with Eyes Wide Shut. May not have quite the same mythic flair, but it is almost as trippy, and also has a not-entirely dissimilar carnivalesque aspect, to boot.

September 20 2012, 10:39 PM	#13
foxhot Captain Location: maryland	Re: There's no one like Kubrick I'm glad that SCHINDLER'S LIST was made by the director of JURASSIC PARK, but I'm disgusted JURASSIC PARK was made by the director of SCHINDLER'S LIST. To put it politely, take away the SPFX of PARK and what are you really left with? A good John Williams score, sure, but where's the story?

September 20 2012, 10:50 PM	#14
MacLeod Vice Admiral Location: Great Britain	Re: There's no one like Kubrick Not every film is a "Schindler's List", just take JP for what it was a summer blockbuster. __________________ On the continent of wild endeavour in the mountains of solace and solitude there stood the citadel of the time lords, the oldest and most mighty race in the universe looking down on the galaxies below sworn never to interfere only to watch.

September 20 2012, 10:52 PM	#15
JarodRussell Vice Admiral	Re: There's no one like Kubrick That non-sensical argument again. The story is that a rich business man clones dinosaurs to create a fun park. Investors force him to have the park evaluated by a group of experts. Meanwhile, a competitor orders dinosaur embryos to be stolen from the labs. During the theft, things go wrong, and the dinosaurs are set free, while the people in the park are trapped. It's about dinosaurs. But it could have been about lions as well with basically the same story. What do the visual effects have to do with that? And why is that less of a story than "Shark shows up and a sheriff tries to kill it" or "archeologist and Nazis search for a magic treasure" or "business man tries to save people from death"?