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Location: Edinburgh
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Re: Literate Trek Novels
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Admiral
Location: Arizona, USA
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Re: Literate Trek Novels
So, I'm just going to list a few of my favorites. There are a lot more that I've enjoyed just as much as the ones in this list, but they are the first to come to mind when I think of my favorites. The Destiny trilogy by David Mack DS9 Mission Gamma: Twilight (this one is part of a fairly complex ongoing arc, so I honestly don't know how understandable it is by itself) A Time to Kill and A Time to Heal by David Mack, and A Time for War, A Time for Peace by Keith R.A. Decandido DS9: The Never-Ending Sacrifice by Una McCormack. The Lost Era: Serpents Among the Ruins by David R. George III The Lost Era: The Art of The Impossible by Keith R.A. DeCandio Mirror Universe: The Sorrows of Empire and Rise Like Lions (These two are the beginnng and end of an arc, so it could be a little confusing if you only read these two) by David Mack Titan: Orion's Hounds by Christopher L. Bennett TNG: Q- Squared by Peter David The entire Vanguard series by David Mack, Dayton Ward, Kevin Dilmore, Marco Palmieri Voyager: Full Circle, Unworthy, and Children of the Storm by Kirsten Beyer
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Captain
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Re: Literate Trek Novels
Grounded by David Bischoff The Murdered Sun by Chistie Golden Echoes by Dean Wesley Smith, Kristine Kathryn Rusch and (sorry I'm drawing a blank) Vendetta by Peter David Capture The Flag by John Vornholt Death of a Neutron Star by Eric (drawing a blank again) Millennium (trilogy) by Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens Spectre Dark Victory Preserver The Return by William Shatner |
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Re: Literate Trek Novels
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Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Includes purchasing links for Only Superhuman, on sale now! Updated 12/30/12 with annotations for the novel. Written Worlds -- My blog |
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Location: Battle Creek, MI
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Admiral
Location: The Red Flag: May Day 2013
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Re: Literate Trek Novels
The rest are either standalone, or have sequels that you don't need to read. For the record, the publishing order of the Typhon Pact books in my list is probably the best order in which to read them, and the order is as follows:
Just like part of the point of a truly good episode of television is to take advantage of the strengths TV provides which you can't find in prose or in other media.
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Admiral
Location: Arizona, USA
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Re: Literate Trek Novels
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Over the course of many encounters and many years, I have successfully developed a standard operating procedure for dealing with big, nasty monsters. Run away. Me and Monty Python. Harry Dresden - Blood Rites (The Dresden Files #6) |
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Re: Literate Trek Novels
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Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Includes purchasing links for Only Superhuman, on sale now! Updated 12/30/12 with annotations for the novel. Written Worlds -- My blog |
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Re: Literate Trek Novels
John M Ford's book The Final Reflection gets a lot of love on these forums. In my opinion, it stands out as the only Trek novel* that can stand with good "original" science fiction. And one of the most striking things about that book is how different it is from other Trek books. It does not use the standard TOS setting and characters, except as a framing device. Its main story examines a whole different culture and that culture's encounter with humans. In one stroke it avoids the generic weakness that limits tie-in fiction, when compared to original sf. And at the same time it zeroes in on a traditional strength of sf, the encounter between alien cultures and values. It takes its place among other great "alien encounter" novels in sf history: maybe not quite LeGuin's Left Hand of Darkness, but not two or three shelves below it either. Other Star Trek books remain "tie-in" novels. Fun for Star Trek fans, not much to offer non-fans. _____________________________________ * "only Trek novel" -- Obviously I mean, "only one that I've read." I've read fewer than 30, maybe fewer than 20, and only TOS (+ TAS "logs"); so theoretically there are dozens of Star Trek tie-ins I've missed, that are peers of the best original sf novels. I freely acknowledge that theoretical possibility; but I find the odds pretty slim. Last edited by JimZipCode; September 20 2012 at 08:55 AM. Reason: to finish the footnote |
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Admiral
Location: The Red Flag: May Day 2013
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Re: Literate Trek Novels
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Lieutenant Commander
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Re: Literate Trek Novels
Tossed aside like chaff when DC decided they wanted to bring back the old, standard, powerful SG. Yet another sad moment in a litany of them, from decades of being a fan of corporately-owned pop art. |
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Lieutenant Commander
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Re: Literate Trek Novels
The mention of Peter David a few posts before, puts me in mind of another possible background for a good tie-in writer. Mr David was an established comic book writer for some years before becoming a go-to Trek auther in the early-to-mid-90s. A comic book writer works on titles and characters owned by the company; he works witin the established setting. A great comic book writer develops a feel for how to inject originality into the series, and where he has to keep the stakes in the ground. Mr David moved from title to title – X-factor, Specatcular Spider-man, Hulk, etc – which meant that he re-learned "the rules" for each title. That's great on-the-job training for a tie-in writer. (I have huge respect for his work in comics.) That, plus Mr David's talent and professionalism, plus his obvious fandom: seems like a good recipe for a Trek-novel writer. Having said all the above, in fact I have not read any of his Trek books. I've had one TNG book sitting around the house forever, possibly Strike Zone, but have never cracked it open. But I assume his Trek books are pretty good ones. Christopher, I've interacted with you in the music thread, and read several of your other posts with interest. You are clearly a guy who thinks carefully about stuff. Please accept my assurances that a few posts above, where I basically impled that all tie-ins are crap, I did not have your novels in mind. Actually, I haven't read a ST novel in several years, but reading your posts has kindled a small curiousity in me, to sample one of yours. Not a temptation I expected to encounter.
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Heck, what do you think are the most widely read works of original fiction? Romance novels generally outsell other genres by a good margin, and few would expect those to be great literature, nor do most of their readers probably want them to be. Mystery novels are quite popular too, and I'm sure that for every brilliant mystery there are countless derivative, formulaic, obvious ones. There's always a market for junk food. Originality is certainly no guarantor of quality or intelligence.
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Fleet Captain
Location: Berlin, Germany
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