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Old September 19 2012, 07:12 PM   #1561
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What's bad about Wunderland?
It sounds dumb.
Yeah, I gathered that you thought so, but why? I doubt a German speaker would agree with that assessment.
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Old September 19 2012, 07:41 PM   #1562
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I'm not a German speaker, and neither is most of the potential audience. Americans don't know no furrin languages and German in particular has fallen off the map so far that a lot of high schools don't offer it as an option anymore, at least that's true in California, where the kids are learning Spanish or maybe Chinese.

To an English speaker, the title evokes "Wonderland + dumb." But really, it's dumb because it's dumb. Doesn't pay to overthink this stuff. A title either works immediately on gut instinct or it doesn't.
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Old September 19 2012, 10:22 PM   #1563
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These days, most people will just think that's how Wonderland is supposed to be spelled.
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Old September 19 2012, 10:42 PM   #1564
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Or maybe they'll just have enough experience with the world to be aware that works of fiction and entertainment often employ variant spellings in their titles for effect -- Mortal Kombat, eXistenZ, Mötley Crüe, etc. Not to mention all the odd spellings in product names.
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Old September 20 2012, 02:01 AM   #1565
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The real probelm is that "Wunderland" is lazy. Throw an umlaut in there at least!

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These days, most people will just think that's how Wonderland is supposed to be spelled.
Maybe we shold be glad they don't spell it WunDaLan or something like that.
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Old September 20 2012, 02:34 AM   #1566
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The real probelm is that "Wunderland" is lazy. Throw an umlaut in there at least!

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These days, most people will just think that's how Wonderland is supposed to be spelled.
Maybe we shold be glad they don't spell it WunDaLan or something like that.
Nope, sorry, there is no diacritic mark on the German word.
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Old September 20 2012, 03:19 AM   #1567
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The real probelm is that "Wunderland" is lazy. Throw an umlaut in there at least!

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These days, most people will just think that's how Wonderland is supposed to be spelled.
Maybe we shold be glad they don't spell it WunDaLan or something like that.
Nope, sorry, there is no diacritic mark on the German word.
really? I coulda sworn I'd seen Wunderland with the double dots over the "U" (Umlaut?)
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Old September 20 2012, 03:27 AM   #1568
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Oh holy gort, I meant it as a joke but of course someone's gone and done it already.

Can't tell if that's an umlaut or a smiley face. Probably both, for maximum cutsey poo-ness.

Moving on from this endlessly fascinating topic, who's up for a lavish steampunk soap? Now there's a topic that deserves an umlaut or three. Sadly Gaslight only has two vowells.

Midnight, Mass comic book adaptation.

The Midnight, Mass. comics creator John Rozum will serve as an executive consultant on the TV project, about a sophisticated, sexy, globe-trotting husband and wife paranormal investigator team — based in Midnight, Massachusetts — that takes on supernatural foes, macabre mysteries and the most frightening creature of all: marriage.

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Old September 20 2012, 03:29 AM   #1569
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Oh holy gort
I'm stealing this.
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Old September 20 2012, 03:38 AM   #1570
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Oh holy gort
I'm stealing this.
Who wouldn't?
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Old September 20 2012, 11:31 AM   #1571
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I doubt it's actually supposed to be the German word "Wunderland." (no Umlaut) Remember how Wonderland was called "Underland" in Tim Burton's Alice film? I think it's probably just a pun along those lines.
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Old September 20 2012, 03:10 PM   #1572
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^You're probably right, but having been a Niven reader for a long time, my first thought on seeing it was the Known Space colony world, which had a largely German-speaking population.
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Old September 20 2012, 04:05 PM   #1573
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I doubt it's actually supposed to be the German word "Wunderland." (no Umlaut) Remember how Wonderland was called "Underland" in Tim Burton's Alice film? I think it's probably just a pun along those lines.
Wunderland isn't supposed to have an Umlaut, is it?
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Old September 20 2012, 08:09 PM   #1574
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Maybe I should start the Church of Holy Gort since the guy seems popular.

They'll need to add an umlaut or do something to signal to their very un-German speaking audience that its Wunderland like wunderkind and wunderbar. The fundamental problem is, Alice in Wonderland has no connection to German culture and it's quite a leap to expect people to get that without additional help. Twenty quatloos says they go the smiley face umlaut route in the logo graphic design.
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Old September 20 2012, 08:26 PM   #1575
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So, no reaction to the San Francisco steampunk soap? I kind of like that idea...
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