MLB Discussion - 2012 Season - Page 52

Use of Time · September 19 2012, 02:40 AM

^ In short, you want Vin Scully.

Danny99 · September 19 2012, 04:28 PM

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/09/18...-level-of-dumb

I'm surprised no one has brought up Yunel Escobar and his gay slur written in his eye black.

He is being torn apart in local media, even on my 1am drive home Toronto sports show. Most people are throwing Manager John Farrell, GM Alex Anthopoulos (who is suddenly being criticized for every move he's made) and the rest of the Blue Jays team under the bus.

My opinion: everyone can have their own, but in a city where the gay community is so big and in a world where it is becoming more and more socially acceptable to be gay, why, when you are a Major League Baseball player, do you write it across your face? How can you be that stupid to then go into a news conference and say "Oh I didn't think it would offend anyone?" Groan.

He should have been suspended for the rest of the season at the very least. The Jays are out of it and have Omar Vizquel and Adeiny Hechavarria sitting on the bench that can easily step into the shortstop position. Why don't you make a statement that this isn't acceptable in your organization? Or cut him altogether?

Thoughts? Comments?

Tom Hendricks · September 19 2012, 05:33 PM

When the story first broke, a friend speculated that he lost a bet and had to wear this. Even if that was true, he was really dumb to do so. If not, why would he choose to do this on his own? Just plain stupid either way, especially how players are under the microscope all the time. However he has never been the best kind of baseball player anyway. Yet, no one on his team thought to tell him to remove it? I find that really odd, you're telling me a coach or the manager didn't notice this?

Mr. Laser Beam · September 19 2012, 05:38 PM

Use of Time wrote:

^ In short, you want Vin Scully.

Who wouldn't?

Use of Time · September 19 2012, 06:30 PM

Hey but he was punished right? Three meaningless games at the ass end of September. That will show him!

Starbreaker · September 20 2012, 01:17 AM

Yunel Escobar is a lackadaisical asshole. He was maligned in Atlanta. Chipper invited the entire Braves team to his birthday party the last year he was there with the exception of Escobar. Escobar and his frosted tips were repeatedly benched for being completely zoned out on defense, not running bases, etc. He just doesn't "get it."

Timby · September 20 2012, 01:36 AM

Danny99 wrote:

Most people are throwing Manager John Farrell, GM Alex Anthopoulos (who is suddenly being criticized for every move he's made)

To be fair, though, AA has been making some pretty moronic trades over the last 18 months or so.

Alidar Jarok · September 20 2012, 01:55 AM

Use of Time wrote:

Hey but he was punished right? Three meaningless games at the ass end of September. That will show him!

Without pay?

Timby · September 20 2012, 02:04 AM

Alidar Jarok wrote:

Use of Time wrote:

Hey but he was punished right? Three meaningless games at the ass end of September. That will show him!

Without pay?

It's also worth noting that the MLBPA isn't even bothering to appeal the suspension, even though the union generally starts frothing at the mouth as soon as a player is suspended. If Escobar isn't traded, I wouldn't be shocked to see him released in the offseason.

R. Star · September 20 2012, 03:10 AM

Use of Time wrote:

^ In short, you want Vin Scully.

Pretty much.

Use of Time · September 20 2012, 12:09 PM

Alidar Jarok wrote:

Use of Time wrote:

Hey but he was punished right? Three meaningless games at the ass end of September. That will show him!

Without pay?

I'm sure he'll manage to put food on the table. I'm just glad the Braves dumped this guy when they had the chance.

Alidar Jarok · September 20 2012, 01:11 PM

The point is, players generally don't like missing a pay check even if they can afford it otherwise. It's the "being put in timeout" aspect that I think really bothers them. Plus, this will hurt his future employability.

Use of Time · September 20 2012, 06:01 PM

Meh, I guess. Baseball teams aren't that picky though, I'm sure if he can actually focus and show some of that alleged upside that he has, he'll find a roster spot. He just seems unfocused and has the tendancy to do something stupid every once in awhile. I thought the eye-black thing was really dumb and juvenile but I really don't think it's going to end up being a deal breaker down the road for him.

TenLubak · September 20 2012, 06:10 PM

What an exciting baseball season!

R. Star · September 20 2012, 07:01 PM

Use of Time wrote:

Meh, I guess. Baseball teams aren't that picky though, I'm sure if he can actually focus and show some of that alleged upside that he has, he'll find a roster spot. He just seems unfocused and has the tendancy to do something stupid every once in awhile. I thought the eye-black thing was really dumb and juvenile but I really don't think it's going to end up being a deal breaker down the road for him.

If you can hit 30 home runs a year, and keep your avg/obp line over 270/350 you can basically be the biggest sob out there and you'll get a job.

September 19 2012, 02:40 AM	#766
Use of Time Fleet Captain Location: Va. Beach, VA	Re: MLB Discussion - 2012 Season ^ In short, you want Vin Scully. __________________ Searching for something, a million miles and a ways to go.

September 19 2012, 04:28 PM	#767
Danny99 Vice Admiral Location: Cookstown, Ontario, Canada	Re: MLB Discussion - 2012 Season http://www.torontosun.com/2012/09/18...-level-of-dumb I'm surprised no one has brought up Yunel Escobar and his gay slur written in his eye black. He is being torn apart in local media, even on my 1am drive home Toronto sports show. Most people are throwing Manager John Farrell, GM Alex Anthopoulos (who is suddenly being criticized for every move he's made) and the rest of the Blue Jays team under the bus. My opinion: everyone can have their own, but in a city where the gay community is so big and in a world where it is becoming more and more socially acceptable to be gay, why, when you are a Major League Baseball player, do you write it across your face? How can you be that stupid to then go into a news conference and say "Oh I didn't think it would offend anyone?" Groan. He should have been suspended for the rest of the season at the very least. The Jays are out of it and have Omar Vizquel and Adeiny Hechavarria sitting on the bench that can easily step into the shortstop position. Why don't you make a statement that this isn't acceptable in your organization? Or cut him altogether? Thoughts? Comments? __________________ The poster previously known as canadaboy_32

September 19 2012, 05:33 PM	#768
Tom Hendricks Muad'Dib Location: Syracuse, NY	Re: MLB Discussion - 2012 Season When the story first broke, a friend speculated that he lost a bet and had to wear this. Even if that was true, he was really dumb to do so. If not, why would he choose to do this on his own? Just plain stupid either way, especially how players are under the microscope all the time. However he has never been the best kind of baseball player anyway. Yet, no one on his team thought to tell him to remove it? I find that really odd, you're telling me a coach or the manager didn't notice this? __________________ I believe in the teachings of the middle ground. I maybe blind but my heart can see. Of course I'm a creationist. I believe man created god.

September 19 2012, 06:30 PM	#770
Use of Time Fleet Captain Location: Va. Beach, VA	Re: MLB Discussion - 2012 Season Hey but he was punished right? Three meaningless games at the ass end of September. That will show him! __________________ Searching for something, a million miles and a ways to go.

September 20 2012, 01:17 AM	#771
Starbreaker Fleet Admiral	Re: MLB Discussion - 2012 Season Yunel Escobar is a lackadaisical asshole. He was maligned in Atlanta. Chipper invited the entire Braves team to his birthday party the last year he was there with the exception of Escobar. Escobar and his frosted tips were repeatedly benched for being completely zoned out on defense, not running bases, etc. He just doesn't "get it."

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September 20 2012, 01:11 PM	#777
Alidar Jarok Everything in moderation but moderation Location: Arlington, VA	Re: MLB Discussion - 2012 Season The point is, players generally don't like missing a pay check even if they can afford it otherwise. It's the "being put in timeout" aspect that I think really bothers them. Plus, this will hurt his future employability. __________________ When on Romulus, Do as the Romulans

September 20 2012, 06:01 PM	#778
Use of Time Fleet Captain Location: Va. Beach, VA	Re: MLB Discussion - 2012 Season Meh, I guess. Baseball teams aren't that picky though, I'm sure if he can actually focus and show some of that alleged upside that he has, he'll find a roster spot. He just seems unfocused and has the tendancy to do something stupid every once in awhile. I thought the eye-black thing was really dumb and juvenile but I really don't think it's going to end up being a deal breaker down the road for him. __________________ Searching for something, a million miles and a ways to go.

September 20 2012, 06:10 PM	#779
TenLubak Commander Location: Baltimore MD USA	Re: MLB Discussion - 2012 Season What an exciting baseball season! __________________ "Now, how are we progressing, Mister La Forge?" "About like you'd expect, sir." "Splendid. Splendid. Carry on."