Braga: Crossover That Never Happened - Page 3

King Daniel into Darkness · September 15 2012, 03:37 PM

JarodRussell wrote:

Wow, that is... lame.

In fairness, what could they really have done? There was no way for FG to be a known Trek character and have a shocking "It's me, Austin! It was me all along Austin! Bwa-ha-ha-haaa!" reveal. Only to logically extrapolate a backstory from what we knew.

JarodRussell · September 15 2012, 04:17 PM

JWD75 wrote:

BillJ wrote:

I always thought the most interesting story that could feature Shatner as Kirk, would've been to place Storm Front forty years later and in that reality Kirk, Spock and McCoy never escaped the 1930's from City.... Archer would've teamed up with an elder Kirk who was now running the mission in Nazi occupied New York.

Before the timeline gets set right, an elderly Kirk gets a chance to step foot onto the NX-01 bridge and sit in the captains chair one last time.

I love this idea. In the hands of a talented writer this could have been a truly great episode. The best part of course is that Shatner would be actually be playing Kirk rather than a mirror universe counterpart or some lame look-a-like.

At the very least, they could turn that into a Phase II episode.

ChristopherPike · September 17 2012, 02:40 PM

KingDaniel wrote:

JarodRussell wrote:

Wow, that is... lame.

In fairness, what could they really have done? There was no way for FG to be a known Trek character and have a shocking "It's me, Austin! It was me all along Austin! Bwa-ha-ha-haaa!" reveal. Only to logically extrapolate a backstory from what we knew.

This sort of reminds me of a recent plot on Doctor Who. Series begins with the Doctor's apparent death and half way through the series, after one potential answer that turned out to be a red herring, the actual device is introduced that's obviously going to be used to fake what we've been shown. In a sense it's a total cop out, being a solution which clearly could never have been deduced from the evidence presented in the opening episodes.

Simply the same kind of narrative trickery to explain something the series creators had absolutely no idea how to resolve when they first set fingers to keyboard.

In a war with factions across time, the future is presumably where the high ground is occupied. That's where one side have presumably invented all the tech which allows the existing timeline to be monitored and also stand in a chamber, isolated from the changes. A character would be introduced as a threat native to the 22nd, be played around with for several episodes - only to be revealed as allied with a future race and relocated to the 29th... where his actions retroactively prove to have been the Suliban's shadowy benefactor. Before returning again, to instigate the Romulan War (after Season 4's arc left the technology behind the Drone project in doubt) and then be killed off in the final season or series finale.

Alternatively, FG as a far future decendant who wouldn't even exist had it not been for the actions of somebody in 22nd. Or his own, in a closed off paradox.

R. Star · September 17 2012, 03:57 PM

Well... the best thing I could say about Kirk crossover is... at least it isn't alien Nazis.

Mr. Laser Beam · September 18 2012, 11:24 PM

Shat should have just played Chef as a normal character with no time travel or posing as Kirk or any of that crap.

Delsaber · September 18 2012, 11:30 PM

Mr. Laser Beam wrote:

Shat should have just played Chef as a normal character with no time travel or posing as Kirk or any of that crap.

Exactly what I wandered into this thread to say! I guess I can go do something else now.

...though to add to that idea slightly, he should've been a Kirk ancestor as well. Chef Kirk. Humble origins and all that.

jespah · September 19 2012, 12:16 AM

I was originally hoping for Chef to be someone like Emeril Lagasse. Bam, indeed.

teacake · September 19 2012, 03:02 AM

Hasn't Shatner resisted playing anyone but Kirk in Trek?

grabthars hammer · September 19 2012, 04:52 AM

Whew! Looks like a bullet was dodged there; Braga and Shatner teaming-up creatively? Probably would've made TATV look like Citizen Kane.

teacake · September 19 2012, 04:55 AM

If you had TATV as it is only with Shat playing Chef it would be like.. eating jelly with broccoli. Just too many elements crammed disjointedly into 45 minutes. Also it might make me resent Shatner which would never do.

Delsaber · September 19 2012, 05:07 AM

Quick aside: does Braga's memory, or lack thereof, amuse anyone else? I know it makes me giggle.

September 17 2012, 03:57 PM	#34
R. Star Commodore Location: Terra 3	Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened Well... the best thing I could say about Kirk crossover is... at least it isn't alien Nazis. __________________ "I was never a Star Trek fan." J.J. Abrams

September 18 2012, 11:24 PM	#35
Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Location: The visitor's bullpen	Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened Shat should have just played Chef as a normal character with no time travel or posing as Kirk or any of that crap. __________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

September 19 2012, 12:16 AM	#37
jespah Commodore Location: Boston, the Gateway to the Galaxy	Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened I was originally hoping for Chef to be someone like Emeril Lagasse. Bam, indeed. __________________ Honk if you love silence http://www.jespah.com (includes fanfiction with most ratings). TU Publishing Adult Trek Anthology

September 19 2012, 03:02 AM	#38
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened Hasn't Shatner resisted playing anyone but Kirk in Trek? __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

September 19 2012, 04:52 AM	#39
grabthars hammer Captain Location: New Jersey	Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened Whew! Looks like a bullet was dodged there; Braga and Shatner teaming-up creatively? Probably would've made TATV look like Citizen Kane.

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September 19 2012, 04:55 AM	#40
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened If you had TATV as it is only with Shat playing Chef it would be like.. eating jelly with broccoli. Just too many elements crammed disjointedly into 45 minutes. Also it might make me resent Shatner which would never do. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

September 19 2012, 05:07 AM	#41
Delsaber Commodore Location: Parts Unknown	Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened Quick aside: does Braga's memory, or lack thereof, amuse anyone else? I know it makes me giggle. __________________ • Delsaber, The Punk Rock P'takh, from Parts Unknown... • Caffeine-Fueled: jittery, occasionally-maintained geek culture blogging.