Was Neelix bordering being a stalker? - Page 4

teacake · September 18 2012, 09:36 AM

The desirable vs undesirable Neelix

Desirable

Kinda cute, warm hearted.

Has his own ship and doesn't work for the man.

Enjoys a good meal, a good time, a good holoprogram.. not full of boring ambitions.

Sense of humour.

Undesirable

Covered in hair.

Stupid ideas about women (see: Kes)

Bit of a sycophant, tries too hard.

Guy Gardener · September 18 2012, 09:44 AM

I'm imagining that a moisture collector looks like a lamppost with umbrella vein like protuberances... And they don't farm grain, they farm water, and if there are thousands of them all over uncle Owen's farm... How big a dick is a guy who owns an entire farm who lets his sister and and nephew be sold into slavery? Did we miss the scene where Ben threatens to cut his winkle off if Owen doesn't take responsibility for his family... Or was it Beru's farm and Owen married into money too late to save his sister?

Anyways, those womprats are either going to fuck, fight, or eat those moister collectors, I mean seriously it's a tall drink of water in the middle of the desert, so why the frakk ain't they going gobble on that? So yes it's possible that his homicidal interests of young Skywalker coincided well with his chores.

Gov Kodos · September 18 2012, 10:38 AM

In 'Night' he came across as a better candidate for first officer than Chuckles. He was spot on about keeping the crew busy in a region like like that. The spats they were having over holodeck time was a sure sign of a morale problem. Time to get the crew busy, Neelix was quite right.

teacake · September 18 2012, 10:43 AM

Gov Kodos wrote:

In 'Night' he came across as a better candidate for first officer than Chuckles. He was spot on about keeping the crew busy in a region like like that. The spats they were having over holodeck time was a sure sign of a morale problem. Time to get the crew busy, Neelix was quite right.

And that makes him hot?

Gov Kodos · September 18 2012, 10:51 AM

teacake wrote:

Gov Kodos wrote:

In 'Night' he came across as a better candidate for first officer than Chuckles. He was spot on about keeping the crew busy in a region like like that. The spats they were having over holodeck time was a sure sign of a morale problem. Time to get the crew busy, Neelix was quite right.

And that makes him hot?

Competence is hot, hence the success of Seven and the Doctor.

teacake · September 18 2012, 11:45 AM

I dunno, I like to aim for a little higher in prospective hotness than competence.

JarodRussell · September 18 2012, 02:52 PM

Insecure nerds tend to stalk, and I don't mean that in an offensive way. There's a fine line between just caring for someone and stalking someone.

teacake · September 18 2012, 10:42 PM

^True. Some people miss all the cues too and think ramping up the pursuit is always the way to go. Neelix should have been panicked over losing Kes because once he started to grasp what she really was it was it should have been obvious she was going to outgrow him. Just having one person on a steep upward trajectory and the other vegetating on a couch is enough.

He saw a lot of potential in the sweet girl he rescued but then he couldn't deal with that potential manifesting itself.

The Overlord · September 19 2012, 03:31 PM

Gov Kodos wrote:

teacake wrote:

Gov Kodos wrote:

In 'Night' he came across as a better candidate for first officer than Chuckles. He was spot on about keeping the crew busy in a region like like that. The spats they were having over holodeck time was a sure sign of a morale problem. Time to get the crew busy, Neelix was quite right.

And that makes him hot?

Competence is hot, hence the success of Seven and the Doctor.

Except there are several examples of Neelix's incompetence during the show's run. Remember the time he got Ensign Hogan killed in Basics?

R. Star · September 19 2012, 05:04 PM

The Overlord wrote:

Gov Kodos wrote:

teacake wrote:

And that makes him hot?

Competence is hot, hence the success of Seven and the Doctor.

Except there are several examples of Neelix's incompetence during the show's run. Remember the time he got Ensign Hogan killed in Basics?

Serves Janeway right for trusting him after he lied to her and got the crew captured and risked their lives in Caretaker. I honestly don't get how she could ever have trusted him after that.

Really though Neelix is the guy with a new hobby every week. And every time he gets a new hobby he's talked himself up to the level of "expert" in that field by day two.

Neutral Zone · September 19 2012, 08:56 PM

There are crew members in the crew that if you were there you would want to be buds with, he's not one of them.

Apart from his Kes obsession, he doesn't always come across as all that competant, trustworthy and no-way if i could help[ it would I eat his slurry (it's the suff that farmers here put on the crops for manure, liquid cow dung!).

teacake · September 19 2012, 11:35 PM

The Overlord wrote:

Gov Kodos wrote:

teacake wrote:

And that makes him hot?

Competence is hot, hence the success of Seven and the Doctor.

Except there are several examples of Neelix's incompetence during the show's run. Remember the time he got Ensign Hogan killed in Basics?

Good times.

Guy Gardener · September 20 2012, 01:30 AM

Until those dinosaurs found his shat out bones, and sent a culling fleet Earthward bound to extract the heresy that was insulting their incredibly true religion... "Almost".

R. Star · September 20 2012, 03:14 AM

Guy Gardener wrote:

Until those dinosaurs found his shat out bones, and sent a culling fleet Earthward bound to extract the heresy that was insulting their incredibly true religion... "Almost".

So we can also blame Neelix for the Space Dinosaurs abducting Voyager too.

teacake · September 20 2012, 09:43 AM

But Chak got to make a big speech in that ep so it was all worth it.

Menosky who wrote it with Braga said:

"Robert Beltran was just awesome in 'Distant Origin'. He's just got massive amounts of charisma."

I practically fell asleep during this.

September 18 2012, 09:36 AM	#46
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: Was Neelix bordering being a stalker? The desirable vs undesirable Neelix Desirable Kinda cute, warm hearted. Has his own ship and doesn't work for the man. Enjoys a good meal, a good time, a good holoprogram.. not full of boring ambitions. Sense of humour. Undesirable Covered in hair. Stupid ideas about women (see: Kes) Bit of a sycophant, tries too hard. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

September 18 2012, 09:44 AM	#47
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: Was Neelix bordering being a stalker? I'm imagining that a moisture collector looks like a lamppost with umbrella vein like protuberances... And they don't farm grain, they farm water, and if there are thousands of them all over uncle Owen's farm... How big a dick is a guy who owns an entire farm who lets his sister and and nephew be sold into slavery? Did we miss the scene where Ben threatens to cut his winkle off if Owen doesn't take responsibility for his family... Or was it Beru's farm and Owen married into money too late to save his sister? Anyways, those womprats are either going to fuck, fight, or eat those moister collectors, I mean seriously it's a tall drink of water in the middle of the desert, so why the frakk ain't they going gobble on that? So yes it's possible that his homicidal interests of young Skywalker coincided well with his chores. __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz

September 18 2012, 10:38 AM	#48
Gov Kodos Vice Admiral Location: Gov Kodos Regretably far from Boston	Re: Was Neelix bordering being a stalker? In 'Night' he came across as a better candidate for first officer than Chuckles. He was spot on about keeping the crew busy in a region like like that. The spats they were having over holodeck time was a sure sign of a morale problem. Time to get the crew busy, Neelix was quite right. __________________ “Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.” Rumi

September 18 2012, 11:45 AM	#51
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: Was Neelix bordering being a stalker? I dunno, I like to aim for a little higher in prospective hotness than competence. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

September 18 2012, 02:52 PM	#52
JarodRussell Vice Admiral	Re: Was Neelix bordering being a stalker? Insecure nerds tend to stalk, and I don't mean that in an offensive way. There's a fine line between just caring for someone and stalking someone.

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September 18 2012, 10:42 PM	#53
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: Was Neelix bordering being a stalker? ^True. Some people miss all the cues too and think ramping up the pursuit is always the way to go. Neelix should have been panicked over losing Kes because once he started to grasp what she really was it was it should have been obvious she was going to outgrow him. Just having one person on a steep upward trajectory and the other vegetating on a couch is enough. He saw a lot of potential in the sweet girl he rescued but then he couldn't deal with that potential manifesting itself. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

September 19 2012, 08:56 PM	#56
Neutral Zone Captain Location: Ferenginar	Re: Was Neelix bordering being a stalker? There are crew members in the crew that if you were there you would want to be buds with, he's not one of them. Apart from his Kes obsession, he doesn't always come across as all that competant, trustworthy and no-way if i could help[ it would I eat his slurry (it's the suff that farmers here put on the crops for manure, liquid cow dung!).

September 20 2012, 01:30 AM	#58
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: Was Neelix bordering being a stalker? Until those dinosaurs found his shat out bones, and sent a culling fleet Earthward bound to extract the heresy that was insulting their incredibly true religion... "Almost". __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz

September 20 2012, 09:43 AM	#60
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: Was Neelix bordering being a stalker? But Chak got to make a big speech in that ep so it was all worth it. Menosky who wrote it with Braga said: "Robert Beltran was just awesome in 'Distant Origin'. He's just got massive amounts of charisma." I practically fell asleep during this. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne