Best engineering chief? - Page 3

Sector 7 · September 17 2012, 04:13 PM

Montgomery Scott: Scotty is the standard by which all StarFleet engineers are judged. He also wrote the book on Starship Engineering.

Mr_Homn · September 18 2012, 03:57 AM

Is o'brien even technically an engineering chief?

I thought he was chief of ops. And before that transporter chief.

I think its gotta be between scotty and laforge, you know, actual engineering chiefs

Nerys Myk · September 18 2012, 04:59 AM

I'd go with Scotty, O'Brien and Trip. LaForge and Torres never really impressed me much.

Takeru · September 18 2012, 05:52 AM

I voted for Torres.

Scotty sucked! Sorry Scotty fans but it's true, when was he ever a shown to be a good engineer? He did an okay job but only seemed great because he flat out lied to his superiors.

Geordie was okay, my only problem with him was that he couldn't stop the warp core from blowing up under his ass, "There's gas coming out of the wall! The ship's lost, get out of here!!!" "Sir, shoudn't we try to repair the coolant leek or eject the ..." "Barrel roll!!!"

O'Brien is a guy I'd like to hang out with, but I don't see anything that makes him the best engineer.

Tucker? Meh.

Torres was a true miracle worker, she kept the ship running for seven years with no starbases nearby, she and her staff worked 24/7 to keep the plasma running and the gel packs healthy, she found a way to build irreplacable photon torpedoes and cranked out shuttle after shuttle in her spare time.

CorporalCaptain · September 18 2012, 06:29 AM

Takeru wrote:

Scotty sucked! Sorry Scotty fans but it's true, when was he ever a shown to be a good engineer? He did an okay job but only seemed great because he flat out lied to his superiors.

Takeru · September 18 2012, 06:36 AM

He admitted it himself, he wildly exaggerated to become known as a miracle worker, no exaggeration, no miracle worker, no best engineer.

CorporalCaptain · September 18 2012, 06:52 AM

Takeru wrote:

He admitted it himself, he wildly exaggerated to become known as a miracle worker, no exaggeration, no miracle worker, no best engineer.

As already pointed out, and correctly, by Maurice upthread, that was a joke. Playful banter between two old friends, Kirk and Scotty.

As for, "when was he ever a shown to be a good engineer?" For a question that requires only a single example to answer, how about The Doomsday Machine, for just one example among scores.

Nightdiamond · September 18 2012, 09:55 AM

You never doubted that Laforge knew his stuff--he had the biggest techno babble scenes I have ever heard. This dude was married to technology.

I could never understand Torres being the chief engineer. She had only a year or two at the academy, and then dropped out.

And then Janeway makes her chief engineer over more experienced engineers -she runs operations, writes schedules, reports, disciplinary actions etc.

Though I like her character, it was too Wesley Crusher-ish for me.

Overall I go with Scotty-I liked how he doubled as the 3rd officer, and he had great lines. Laforge knew his engines, but Scotty was in love with them.

MacLeod · September 18 2012, 04:29 PM

Wasn't Scotty 2nd Officer, 3rd in Command?

Ronald Held · September 18 2012, 07:42 PM

Scotty due to longivity in his career and his skills. How many engineering requirements are attributable to him?

Nightdiamond · September 18 2012, 10:36 PM

MacLeod wrote:

Wasn't Scotty 2nd Officer, 3rd in Command?

Sorry, I meant 2nd officer. He had to do double duty sometimes and command the Enterprise , while La forge had it pretty comfortable just commanding Engineering.

Still I was surprised Obrien ranked 2nd while La forge got third place, since TNG is often seen as being more mainstream than DS9.

Laforge was one of my favorites, but Scotty wrote the book, plain and simple.

MacLeod · September 18 2012, 10:58 PM

I'm not surpised that O'Brien is placing second. But I see there is no love for Chief Engineer Olsen alas we never got to know him.

Hartzilla2007 · September 19 2012, 12:00 AM

MacLeod wrote:

But I see there is no love for Chief Engineer Olsen alas we never got to know him.

He was an idiot who took the charges needed to blow up Nero's drill with him when he died like the redshirt he was and thus may have contributed to Vulcan's destruction.

MacLeod · September 19 2012, 12:26 AM

Logically each of them should have been carrying charges, just in case one of them missed.

Rory1080p · September 19 2012, 05:49 AM

I like all of them, but Scotty has the edge for me

View Poll Results: ?
Scotty	43	46.24%
LaForge	13	13.98%
O'Brien	23	24.73%
Torres	5	5.38%
Tucker	9	9.68%
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September 17 2012, 04:13 PM	#31
Sector 7 Rear Admiral Location: Obama's Achievements - http://obamaachievements.org/list	Re: Best engineering chief? Montgomery Scott: Scotty is the standard by which all StarFleet engineers are judged. He also wrote the book on Starship Engineering. __________________ “The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.” -FDR God gives us what we can handle, even if we don't believe it ourselves.

September 18 2012, 03:57 AM	#32
Mr_Homn Captain	Re: Best engineering chief? Is o'brien even technically an engineering chief? I thought he was chief of ops. And before that transporter chief. I think its gotta be between scotty and laforge, you know, actual engineering chiefs __________________ "Thank you.. for the drinks."

September 18 2012, 04:59 AM	#33
Nerys Myk Admiral Location: House of Kang, now with ridges	Re: Best engineering chief? I'd go with Scotty, O'Brien and Trip. LaForge and Torres never really impressed me much. __________________ Nerys Myk's Midnight In Never Land A novel of Dark Fantasy @ Amazon.com

September 18 2012, 05:52 AM	#34
Takeru Captain	Re: Best engineering chief? I voted for Torres. Scotty sucked! Sorry Scotty fans but it's true, when was he ever a shown to be a good engineer? He did an okay job but only seemed great because he flat out lied to his superiors. Geordie was okay, my only problem with him was that he couldn't stop the warp core from blowing up under his ass, "There's gas coming out of the wall! The ship's lost, get out of here!!!" "Sir, shoudn't we try to repair the coolant leek or eject the ..." "Barrel roll!!!" O'Brien is a guy I'd like to hang out with, but I don't see anything that makes him the best engineer. Tucker? Meh. Torres was a true miracle worker, she kept the ship running for seven years with no starbases nearby, she and her staff worked 24/7 to keep the plasma running and the gel packs healthy, she found a way to build irreplacable photon torpedoes and cranked out shuttle after shuttle in her spare time.

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September 18 2012, 06:36 AM	#36
Takeru Captain	Re: Best engineering chief? He admitted it himself, he wildly exaggerated to become known as a miracle worker, no exaggeration, no miracle worker, no best engineer.

September 18 2012, 09:55 AM	#38
Nightdiamond Fleet Captain Location: California	Re: Best engineering chief? You never doubted that Laforge knew his stuff--he had the biggest techno babble scenes I have ever heard. This dude was married to technology. I could never understand Torres being the chief engineer. She had only a year or two at the academy, and then dropped out. And then Janeway makes her chief engineer over more experienced engineers -she runs operations, writes schedules, reports, disciplinary actions etc. Though I like her character, it was too Wesley Crusher-ish for me. Overall I go with Scotty-I liked how he doubled as the 3rd officer, and he had great lines. Laforge knew his engines, but Scotty was in love with them.

September 18 2012, 04:29 PM	#39
MacLeod Vice Admiral Location: Great Britain	Re: Best engineering chief? Wasn't Scotty 2nd Officer, 3rd in Command? __________________ On the continent of wild endeavour in the mountains of solace and solitude there stood the citadel of the time lords, the oldest and most mighty race in the universe looking down on the galaxies below sworn never to interfere only to watch.

September 18 2012, 07:42 PM	#40
Ronald Held Rear Admiral Location: On the USS Sovereign	Re: Best engineering chief? Scotty due to longivity in his career and his skills. How many engineering requirements are attributable to him?

September 18 2012, 10:58 PM	#42
MacLeod Vice Admiral Location: Great Britain	Re: Best engineering chief? I'm not surpised that O'Brien is placing second. But I see there is no love for Chief Engineer Olsen alas we never got to know him. __________________ On the continent of wild endeavour in the mountains of solace and solitude there stood the citadel of the time lords, the oldest and most mighty race in the universe looking down on the galaxies below sworn never to interfere only to watch.

September 19 2012, 12:26 AM	#44
MacLeod Vice Admiral Location: Great Britain	Re: Best engineering chief? Logically each of them should have been carrying charges, just in case one of them missed. __________________ On the continent of wild endeavour in the mountains of solace and solitude there stood the citadel of the time lords, the oldest and most mighty race in the universe looking down on the galaxies below sworn never to interfere only to watch.

September 19 2012, 05:49 AM	#45
Rory1080p Ensign Location: Somerset, England	Re: Best engineering chief? I like all of them, but Scotty has the edge for me