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 September 14 2012, 03:05 AM #1 los2188 Commander     Location: North Carolina What is the significance of the number 47? I've always wanted to know this, but what is the significance of the number 47 in trek? I know that it's an inside type thing, but what makes the number 47 so special if at all? __________________ Darling, you remain as aesthetically pleasing as the first day we met. I believe I am the most fortunate sentient in this sector of the galaxy.
September 14 2012, 03:16 AM   #2
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Re: What is the significance of the number 47?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47_(number)
 Forty-seven has been the favorite number of Pomona College, California, USA, since 1964. A mathematical proof, written in 1964 by Professor Donald Bentley, supposedly demonstrates that all numbers are equal to 47.[4] However, Bentley offered it as a "joke proof" to further a popular student research project that listed real and imaginative "47 sightings". Bentley used the invalid proof to introduce his students to the concept of mathematical proofs.[5] Joe Menosky graduated from Pomona College in 1979 and went on to become one of the story writers of Star Trek: The Next Generation. Menosky "infected" other Star Trek writers with an enthusiasm for the number 47.
The joke transcends Trek, also showing up in J.J. Abrams shows from Alias to Fringe (so it's an interesting convergence that he ended up doing Trek).
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 September 16 2012, 05:58 AM #3 alpha_leonis Captain Re: What is the significance of the number 47? The most "amazing" (??) example of the Star Trek "47 convergence" is the respective ages of the actors who played the five captains. Patrick Stewart and Scott Bakula were both 47 years old at the beginning of their respective series. Avery Brooks and Kate Mulgrew were both 47 at the *end* of their series. William Shatner was 47 years old at the time of the filming of TMP. __________________ No butterflies were harmed in the filming of this episode.
 September 16 2012, 06:49 AM #4 teacake Admiral     Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats. Re: What is the significance of the number 47? I'm pretty sure William Shatner was bound to be 47 at some point during his Trek career. __________________ "Damnit Spock. God damnit!" Kirk ST:V ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne
 September 16 2012, 10:32 AM #5 Tiberius Commodore Re: What is the significance of the number 47? But it could have easily been during the period when there was no Trek being made... __________________
 September 16 2012, 11:07 AM #6 Mr_Homn Captain Re: What is the significance of the number 47? Topic Creator, You really shouldn't be asking such questions. __________________ "Thank you.. for the drinks."
 September 16 2012, 03:44 PM #7 Forbin Admiral     Location: I said out, dammit! Re: What is the significance of the number 47? Wow, and I turned 47 in 2004 when Enterprise was in the middle of sucking the life out of the franchise. __________________ My kitbashes: http://www.inpayne.com/models/kitbash/trekpage.html My kitbash Wallpapers: http://www.inpayne.com/models/wallpa...allpapers.html My Kitbash Datasheets: http://www.inpayne.com/portfolio/datasheets.html
 September 16 2012, 05:43 PM #8 Christopher Writer Re: What is the significance of the number 47? Here's one: The number of Star Trek main-title regulars, plus the major semi-regular crew/community members who appeared in at least 30 installments, equals 47: 1. Kirk 2. Spock 3. McCoy 4. Scott 5. Sulu 6. Uhura 7. Chekov 8. Chapel 9. Picard 10. Riker 11. Data 12. La Forge 13. Troi 14. Worf 15. Crusher 16. Yar 17. W. Crusher 18. Guinan 19. Sisko 20. Kira 21. Odo 22. Bashir 23. J. Dax 24. E. Dax 25. O'Brien 26. J. Sisko 27. Quark 28. Rom 29. Nog 30. Garak 31. Janeway 32. Chakotay 33. Tuvok 34. EMH 35. Paris 36. Torres 37. Kim 38. Neelix 39. Kes 40. Seven 41. Archer 42. T'Pol 43. Tucker 44. Phlox 45. Reed 46. Sato 47. Mayweather Of course I had to fudge the definitions to get that result, since I had to define it in such a way as to leave out frequently recurring characters like Pulaski (who was never technically a main-title regular), Keiko, and Dukat, as well as perennial bit players like Leslie, Morn, Ayala, etc. (not to mention Porthos). But hey, that's how numerology works -- you make up the conclusion you want and cook the data to support it. __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Site update 4/8/14 including annotations for Rise of the Federation: Tower of Babel Written Worlds -- My blog
 September 16 2012, 05:48 PM #9 JarodRussell Vice Admiral Re: What is the significance of the number 47? There are 47 47-year-old virgins that one day where promised 47 virgins if they watch all Star Trek episodes and films in a row without interruption.
 September 16 2012, 06:48 PM #10 T'Cal Commodore     Location: Chicago Re: What is the significance of the number 47? Supposedly, if you were to pick a random two digit number and then for a few months note how many times it and 47 come up in all that you observe, 47 will be more prevalent. All I know is, I use 47 whenever I can. I must use it 47 times a day! (That's four!) __________________ "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably." -- Judge Aaron Satie
 September 16 2012, 07:24 PM #11 d'Anconia Lieutenant Commander     Location: The Gap in the fabric of all Time and Space. Re: What is the significance of the number 47? "47 is 42, corrected for inflation"-Rick Berman __________________ "So..Five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit."
 September 16 2012, 10:42 PM #12 SilentP Commodore     Location: is in a very lonely Corner of the Circle Re: What is the significance of the number 47? The amount of times 47 appears in Star Trek: Online gets annoying, really beats the dead horse as a joke.
 September 16 2012, 10:59 PM #13 C.E. Evans Vice Admiral     Location: Saint Louis (aka Defiance) Re: What is the significance of the number 47? But 1 is the loneliest number... I also thought it was the number of things that contained the numbers 4 and 7 in Trek too... (for example) USS Voyager NCC-74656 USS Defiant NX-72405 __________________ "Everybody wants to rule the world..."
September 17 2012, 03:41 AM   #14
Nick086
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Re: What is the significance of the number 47?

 JarodRussell wrote: There are 47 47-year-old virgins that one day where promised 47 virgins if they watch all Star Trek episodes and films in a row without interruption.

wow, just wow
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 September 17 2012, 02:44 PM #15 Delta Vega Lieutenant Commander   Location: The Great Barrier Re: What is the significance of the number 47? 47 is the amount of episodes named in the "10 worst episodes" thread.

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