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Old September 15 2012, 03:37 PM   #31
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Wow, that is... lame.
In fairness, what could they really have done? There was no way for FG to be a known Trek character and have a shocking "It's me, Austin! It was me all along Austin! Bwa-ha-ha-haaa!" reveal. Only to logically extrapolate a backstory from what we knew.
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Old September 15 2012, 04:17 PM   #32
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I always thought the most interesting story that could feature Shatner as Kirk, would've been to place Storm Front forty years later and in that reality Kirk, Spock and McCoy never escaped the 1930's from City.... Archer would've teamed up with an elder Kirk who was now running the mission in Nazi occupied New York.

Before the timeline gets set right, an elderly Kirk gets a chance to step foot onto the NX-01 bridge and sit in the captains chair one last time.
I love this idea. In the hands of a talented writer this could have been a truly great episode. The best part of course is that Shatner would be actually be playing Kirk rather than a mirror universe counterpart or some lame look-a-like.
At the very least, they could turn that into a Phase II episode.
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Old September 17 2012, 02:40 PM   #33
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Wow, that is... lame.
In fairness, what could they really have done? There was no way for FG to be a known Trek character and have a shocking "It's me, Austin! It was me all along Austin! Bwa-ha-ha-haaa!" reveal. Only to logically extrapolate a backstory from what we knew.
This sort of reminds me of a recent plot on Doctor Who. Series begins with the Doctor's apparent death and half way through the series, after one potential answer that turned out to be a red herring, the actual device is introduced that's obviously going to be used to fake what we've been shown. In a sense it's a total cop out, being a solution which clearly could never have been deduced from the evidence presented in the opening episodes.

Simply the same kind of narrative trickery to explain something the series creators had absolutely no idea how to resolve when they first set fingers to keyboard.

In a war with factions across time, the future is presumably where the high ground is occupied. That's where one side have presumably invented all the tech which allows the existing timeline to be monitored and also stand in a chamber, isolated from the changes. A character would be introduced as a threat native to the 22nd, be played around with for several episodes - only to be revealed as allied with a future race and relocated to the 29th... where his actions retroactively prove to have been the Suliban's shadowy benefactor. Before returning again, to instigate the Romulan War (after Season 4's arc left the technology behind the Drone project in doubt) and then be killed off in the final season or series finale.

Alternatively, FG as a far future decendant who wouldn't even exist had it not been for the actions of somebody in 22nd. Or his own, in a closed off paradox.
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Old September 17 2012, 03:57 PM   #34
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Well... the best thing I could say about Kirk crossover is... at least it isn't alien Nazis.
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Old September 18 2012, 11:24 PM   #35
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Shat should have just played Chef as a normal character with no time travel or posing as Kirk or any of that crap.
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Old September 18 2012, 11:30 PM   #36
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Shat should have just played Chef as a normal character with no time travel or posing as Kirk or any of that crap.
Exactly what I wandered into this thread to say! I guess I can go do something else now.

...though to add to that idea slightly, he should've been a Kirk ancestor as well. Chef Kirk. Humble origins and all that.
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I was originally hoping for Chef to be someone like Emeril Lagasse. Bam, indeed.
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Old September 19 2012, 03:02 AM   #38
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Hasn't Shatner resisted playing anyone but Kirk in Trek?
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Old September 19 2012, 04:52 AM   #39
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Whew! Looks like a bullet was dodged there; Braga and Shatner teaming-up creatively? Probably would've made TATV look like Citizen Kane.
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Old September 19 2012, 04:55 AM   #40
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If you had TATV as it is only with Shat playing Chef it would be like.. eating jelly with broccoli. Just too many elements crammed disjointedly into 45 minutes. Also it might make me resent Shatner which would never do.
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Old September 19 2012, 05:07 AM   #41
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Quick aside: does Braga's memory, or lack thereof, amuse anyone else? I know it makes me giggle.
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