RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 140,218
Posts: 5,437,832
Members: 24,953
Currently online: 496
Newest member: Kavanc

TrekToday headlines

Cumberbatch In Wax
By: T'Bonz on Oct 24

Trek Screenwriter Washington D.C. Appearance
By: T'Bonz on Oct 23

Two Official Starships Collection Ships
By: T'Bonz on Oct 22

Pine In New Skit
By: T'Bonz on Oct 21

Stewart In Holiday Film
By: T'Bonz on Oct 21

The Red Shirt Diaries #8
By: T'Bonz on Oct 20

IDW Publishing January Comics
By: T'Bonz on Oct 20

Retro Review: Chrysalis
By: Michelle on Oct 18

The Next Generation Season Seven Blu-ray Details
By: T'Bonz on Oct 17

CBS Launches Streaming Service
By: T'Bonz on Oct 17


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Star Trek TV Series > Enterprise

Enterprise The final frontier has a new beginning in this forum!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old September 15 2012, 03:37 PM   #31
F. King Daniel
Admiral
 
F. King Daniel's Avatar
 
Location: King Daniel Into Darkness
Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened

JarodRussell wrote: View Post
Wow, that is... lame.
In fairness, what could they really have done? There was no way for FG to be a known Trek character and have a shocking "It's me, Austin! It was me all along Austin! Bwa-ha-ha-haaa!" reveal. Only to logically extrapolate a backstory from what we knew.
__________________
Star Trek Imponderables, fun mashups of Trek's biggest continuity errors! Ep1, Ep2 and Ep3
F. King Daniel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 15 2012, 04:17 PM   #32
JarodRussell
Vice Admiral
 
JarodRussell's Avatar
 
Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened

JWD75 wrote: View Post
BillJ wrote: View Post
I always thought the most interesting story that could feature Shatner as Kirk, would've been to place Storm Front forty years later and in that reality Kirk, Spock and McCoy never escaped the 1930's from City.... Archer would've teamed up with an elder Kirk who was now running the mission in Nazi occupied New York.

Before the timeline gets set right, an elderly Kirk gets a chance to step foot onto the NX-01 bridge and sit in the captains chair one last time.
I love this idea. In the hands of a talented writer this could have been a truly great episode. The best part of course is that Shatner would be actually be playing Kirk rather than a mirror universe counterpart or some lame look-a-like.
At the very least, they could turn that into a Phase II episode.
JarodRussell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 17 2012, 02:40 PM   #33
ChristopherPike
Rear Admiral
 
ChristopherPike's Avatar
 
Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened

KingDaniel wrote: View Post
JarodRussell wrote: View Post
Wow, that is... lame.
In fairness, what could they really have done? There was no way for FG to be a known Trek character and have a shocking "It's me, Austin! It was me all along Austin! Bwa-ha-ha-haaa!" reveal. Only to logically extrapolate a backstory from what we knew.
This sort of reminds me of a recent plot on Doctor Who. Series begins with the Doctor's apparent death and half way through the series, after one potential answer that turned out to be a red herring, the actual device is introduced that's obviously going to be used to fake what we've been shown. In a sense it's a total cop out, being a solution which clearly could never have been deduced from the evidence presented in the opening episodes.

Simply the same kind of narrative trickery to explain something the series creators had absolutely no idea how to resolve when they first set fingers to keyboard.

In a war with factions across time, the future is presumably where the high ground is occupied. That's where one side have presumably invented all the tech which allows the existing timeline to be monitored and also stand in a chamber, isolated from the changes. A character would be introduced as a threat native to the 22nd, be played around with for several episodes - only to be revealed as allied with a future race and relocated to the 29th... where his actions retroactively prove to have been the Suliban's shadowy benefactor. Before returning again, to instigate the Romulan War (after Season 4's arc left the technology behind the Drone project in doubt) and then be killed off in the final season or series finale.

Alternatively, FG as a far future decendant who wouldn't even exist had it not been for the actions of somebody in 22nd. Or his own, in a closed off paradox.
__________________
STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE Season 5 on Netflix Facebook page

Last edited by ChristopherPike; September 17 2012 at 03:06 PM.
ChristopherPike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 17 2012, 03:57 PM   #34
R. Star
Rear Admiral
 
R. Star's Avatar
 
Location: Shangri-La
Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened

Well... the best thing I could say about Kirk crossover is... at least it isn't alien Nazis.
__________________
"I was never a Star Trek fan." J.J. Abrams
R. Star is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 18 2012, 11:24 PM   #35
George Steinbrenner
Fleet Admiral
 
George Steinbrenner's Avatar
 
Location: Mr. Laser Beam is in the visitor's bullpen
View George Steinbrenner's Twitter Profile
Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened

Shat should have just played Chef as a normal character with no time travel or posing as Kirk or any of that crap.
__________________
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
George Steinbrenner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 18 2012, 11:30 PM   #36
Delsaber
Commodore
 
Delsaber's Avatar
 
Location: Parts Unknown
Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened

Mr. Laser Beam wrote: View Post
Shat should have just played Chef as a normal character with no time travel or posing as Kirk or any of that crap.
Exactly what I wandered into this thread to say! I guess I can go do something else now.

...though to add to that idea slightly, he should've been a Kirk ancestor as well. Chef Kirk. Humble origins and all that.
__________________
• Dr. Del T. Saber DFA, esq.
Delsaber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 19 2012, 12:16 AM   #37
rabid bat
Commodore
 
rabid bat's Avatar
 
Location: Boston, the Gateway to the Galaxy
View rabid bat's Twitter Profile
Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened

I was originally hoping for Chef to be someone like Emeril Lagasse. Bam, indeed.
__________________
Oh, Stewardess! I speak Jive!
http://www.jespah.com (fanfic with all ratings). TU Publishing
Over-18 Trek Anthology 2
Artist formerly known as jespah.
rabid bat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 19 2012, 03:02 AM   #38
teacock
Admiral
 
teacock's Avatar
 
Location: teacake
Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened

Hasn't Shatner resisted playing anyone but Kirk in Trek?
__________________

"Damnit Spock. God damnit!" Kirk ST:V
■ ■ ■
Janeway does Melbourne
teacock is online now   Reply With Quote
Old September 19 2012, 04:52 AM   #39
grabthars hammer
Captain
 
grabthars hammer's Avatar
 
Location: New Jersey
Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened

Whew! Looks like a bullet was dodged there; Braga and Shatner teaming-up creatively? Probably would've made TATV look like Citizen Kane.
grabthars hammer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 19 2012, 04:55 AM   #40
teacock
Admiral
 
teacock's Avatar
 
Location: teacake
Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened

If you had TATV as it is only with Shat playing Chef it would be like.. eating jelly with broccoli. Just too many elements crammed disjointedly into 45 minutes. Also it might make me resent Shatner which would never do.
__________________

"Damnit Spock. God damnit!" Kirk ST:V
■ ■ ■
Janeway does Melbourne
teacock is online now   Reply With Quote
Old September 19 2012, 05:07 AM   #41
Delsaber
Commodore
 
Delsaber's Avatar
 
Location: Parts Unknown
Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened

Quick aside: does Braga's memory, or lack thereof, amuse anyone else? I know it makes me giggle.
__________________
• Dr. Del T. Saber DFA, esq.
Delsaber is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
enterprise, shatner, star trek enterprise, start trek

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:49 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.