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Old September 15 2012, 05:19 AM   #31
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Re: female audience reaction to Seven of Nine

C7, I just attribute that to a bad tequila binge.
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Old September 15 2012, 05:25 AM   #32
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Seven joining the cast really didn't really didn't increase VOY's ratings that much.

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Old September 15 2012, 05:26 AM   #33
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I knew it was only a matter of time before we hit the C/7 wall...

My opinion on that: it made no sense what so ever and never will. They had no chemistry, and we were just expected to take it out of the blue in "Endgame". All we get is "I believe that this is an appropriate third date."

Third date?! When in the hell did that happen?
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Old September 15 2012, 05:41 AM   #34
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I knew it was only a matter of time before we hit the C/7 wall...

My opinion on that: it made no sense what so ever and never will. They had no chemistry, and we were just expected to take it out of the blue in "Endgame". All we get is "I believe that this is an appropriate third date."

Third date?! When in the hell did that happen?
Well I suppose maybe in the minds of the writers who thought up that, um, scenario, lol. I seem to remember in a magazine article after Endgame first aired, the writers were asked "why Chakotay/Seven" and their answer was (pretty much) well, why not? Yikes (MO).
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Old September 15 2012, 05:48 AM   #35
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I always attributed C/7 to Chakotay being meek, mild and submissive therefore perfectly assimilated already.
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Old September 15 2012, 07:51 AM   #36
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Starter husband.

STARTER HUSBAND.

There, that's all you need to know. He's good for practicing on, like a test dummy. He will always be nice to her too, even when it doesn't work out.
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Old September 15 2012, 08:41 AM   #37
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Starter husband.

STARTER HUSBAND.

There, that's all you need to know. He's good for practicing on, like a test dummy. He will always be nice to her too, even when it doesn't work out.
Yup, just biding her time till Janeway comes to her senses.
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Old September 15 2012, 09:12 AM   #38
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Frankly, Kes was boring me to tears. I never missed her.

7 of 9 quickly became one of my favorite characters as I have a huge fondness for dry wit and deadpan comments. But her cat-suit (and T'Pol's for that matter) was downright superfluous and silly. And if Chakotay's screen time was reduced because of her appearance, it's an added bonus.
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Old September 15 2012, 09:23 AM   #39
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Complaints about it becoming the Seven Of Nine show is ridiculous. Janeway had all the dialogue.
Eventually the show was mostly Janeway, Seven, EMH. With everyone else as supporting cast. And there's nothing really wrong with that. TOS was about Kirk, Spock, Bones, with everyone else as a supporting cast.

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I'm sure some of the actors that had been there from the start weren't happy with that and felt a little resentment.
Yes, Garret Wang and Robert Beltran weren't happy about it. Of course the two least talented actors on that show complained about not getting as much screen time as the 3 best actors on that show.


I liked Seven. I was always hoping she would hook up with Harry.
Although, I will admit, the high heels were a bit much. I mean really. She won't eat normal food if she can just have an efficient supplement, but she'll wear high heels?

Another thing I didn't like is, I believe by the time season 6 rolled around, she was still going through this adapting to being human thing, and yet we continuously see her grow and learn. It's like they kept hitting the reset button at a certain point of progress.
Though I suppose that was necessary, because if she completely grew, became 100% human, it would have killed her character, because she could no longer react to things from the alien's perspective.
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Old September 15 2012, 02:22 PM   #40
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I liked Seven. I was always hoping she would hook up with Harry.
"Hook up" as in, devour.
Although, I will admit, the high heels were a bit much. I mean really. She won't eat normal food if she can just have an efficient supplement, but she'll wear high heels?
Janeway had them too. 7's look particularly ridiculous.

I just pretend it is not happening and hope that if this show was being made today they would all be in combat boots which are infinitely hotter.
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Old September 15 2012, 02:52 PM   #41
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Of course there was an "eye candy" element, but when hasn't there been in television? TV shows hire attractive people of both sexes. TOS has its crewwomen in miniskirts and alien women in flimsy strips of fabric, but also had Kirk gratuitously lose his shirt on a regular basis. We can complain about the implausibility, but it's a fact of life that TV shows are cast good-looking people and play up their attractiveness. So yeah, Seven's and T'Pol's catsuits were particularly egregious examples of that, but I saw them as basically par for the course. And while I deeply enjoyed looking at Jeri Ryan in her catsuits, I never had a problem noticing what a gifted and charismatic performer she was as well and what a rich, intriguing character she was written as.
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Old September 15 2012, 03:39 PM   #42
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Although, I will admit, the high heels were a bit much. I mean really. She won't eat normal food if she can just have an efficient supplement, but she'll wear high heels?
The catsuit and heels were so damn tacky. I don't know why there was such a Trek obsession with catsuits were in Modern Trek. Give me a woman in a Starfleet uniform anyday, they look much professional and sexier.

It is a shame that Seven only wore it once, while Troi wore a uniform for the last two seasons of TNG and Kira had it for the final chapters of DS9.
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Old September 15 2012, 04:05 PM   #43
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I've always liked her; and Jeri Ryan is great, too.
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Old September 16 2012, 12:22 AM   #44
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7 looked FAR better in uniform. She looked WONDERFUL in uniform.

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Old September 16 2012, 03:28 AM   #45
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7 looked FAR better in uniform. She looked WONDERFUL in uniform.

QFT.

The catsuit was just ridiculous, and in the uniform you can actually take her seriously as a character.
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