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Old September 14 2012, 10:43 PM   #16
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Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened

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I always thought the most interesting story that could feature Shatner as Kirk, would've been to place Storm Front forty years later and in that reality Kirk, Spock and McCoy never escaped the 1930's from City.... Archer would've teamed up with an elder Kirk who was now running the mission in Nazi occupied New York.

Before the timeline gets set right, an elderly Kirk gets a chance to step foot onto the NX-01 bridge and sit in the captains chair one last time.
That sounds fucking amazing. The more you think about it, the better it works. A faction in the TCW having taken advantage of McCoy altering history. He's pushed Edith out of the way, and been hit by a truck instead. She's nationally famous as a peace campaigner. The Nazis invade the US, and we're told Spock had been taken away for dissection... so Nimoy not required, leaving Shatner to play a broken 60-something Kirk discovered by Archer. Shift it forward in time to an alternate 1966 with a facist America versus Soviet Russia. Probably a Black Civil Rights underground and other ongoing resistance movements, instead of just Italian American Gangsters in NY.

No need to involve the Guardian of Forever. Obviously have Kirk hint at it just enough to piss Harlan Ellison off, with not enough grounds for him to file a lawsuit.
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Old September 14 2012, 11:04 PM   #17
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I always thought the most interesting story that could feature Shatner as Kirk, would've been to place Storm Front forty years later and in that reality Kirk, Spock and McCoy never escaped the 1930's from City.... Archer would've teamed up with an elder Kirk who was now running the mission in Nazi occupied New York.

Before the timeline gets set right, an elderly Kirk gets a chance to step foot onto the NX-01 bridge and sit in the captains chair one last time.
That sounds fucking amazing.
Thanks.

One of many ideas I've got floating through my brain that I've never had the guts to put to paper.
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Old September 14 2012, 11:16 PM   #18
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I'm more intrigued by the story about John Logan's crossover proposal that Stewart liked, involved all the Captains and would have shattered the format.
Doesn't sound silly at all...
It worked for The Avengers.


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That is actually, without a doubt, the best idea ever.
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Old September 15 2012, 12:00 AM   #19
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I'm more intrigued by the story about John Logan's crossover proposal that Stewart liked, involved all the Captains and would have shattered the format.
Doesn't sound silly at all...
It worked for The Avengers.
They should have thrown in some dinosaurs too, it worked for Jurassic Park...
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Old September 15 2012, 01:21 AM   #20
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Re: Braga: Crossover That Never Happened

We had dinosaurs in Who.

ENOUGH with the dinosaurs.
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Old September 15 2012, 02:24 AM   #21
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Doesn't sound silly at all...
It worked for The Avengers.
They should have thrown in some dinosaurs too, it worked for Jurassic Park...
Scary alien reptile monster in very suspenseful, breathtaking scenes? I'm all for it.
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Old September 15 2012, 06:10 AM   #22
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We had dinosaurs in Who.

ENOUGH with the dinosaurs.
There's never enough dinosaurs.
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Old September 15 2012, 10:33 AM   #23
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Scary alien reptile monster in very suspenseful, breathtaking scenes? I'm all for it.
That's what I hoped for when Terra Nova first started airing...

But Brannon had other plans... Like amnesia-inducing viruses and shit.
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Old September 15 2012, 10:37 AM   #24
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Amnesia, I've had enough of that in my sci fi too.

I wish they would just forget about it.
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Old September 15 2012, 12:31 PM   #25
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A lot like the TCW itself really. Promising start, a couple of interesting episodes connected to it but disappointing and hasty conclusion. Too many questions left unresolved, like Future Guy - despite comments since that they planned to make him a Romulan. It frustrates on that level, on rewatch, things that feel important but we'll never see resolved.
Although it very definitely should have been resolved on-screen, Future Guy's identity and backstory is revealed in the novel Watching the Clock...

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Old September 15 2012, 01:04 PM   #26
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Wow, that is... lame.
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Old September 15 2012, 01:09 PM   #27
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I spent several minutes debating whether to look at KingDaniel's spoiler tag.

I looked.

That is all.
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Old September 15 2012, 02:53 PM   #28
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Some things are best left never happening.
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Old September 15 2012, 03:03 PM   #29
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Amnesia, I've had enough of that in my sci fi too.

I wish they would just forget about it.
Oh... SNAP!
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I always thought the most interesting story that could feature Shatner as Kirk, would've been to place Storm Front forty years later and in that reality Kirk, Spock and McCoy never escaped the 1930's from City.... Archer would've teamed up with an elder Kirk who was now running the mission in Nazi occupied New York.

Before the timeline gets set right, an elderly Kirk gets a chance to step foot onto the NX-01 bridge and sit in the captains chair one last time.
I love this idea. In the hands of a talented writer this could have been a truly great episode. The best part of course is that Shatner would be actually be playing Kirk rather than a mirror universe counterpart or some lame look-a-like.
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