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Old September 15 2012, 01:01 AM   #1
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female audience reaction to Seven of Nine

I want to know how did female fans feel about Seven of Nine when the series first ran on UPN? No not any male fan on TrekBBS but only female fans and girlfriends/wives who watched VOY with their other half.
Way back in September of 1997 during "Scorpion, Part II"
VOY Episode 4x01 when she first appeared and for the 4th season:
Did they feel she was a strong female character replacement for Kes leaving the show? Did they feel she was just T&A eye candy for the male audience?

How about during a first viewing on Netflix for new women audiences during the 4th season?
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Old September 15 2012, 01:10 AM   #2
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Re: female audience reaction to Seven of Nine

No doubt with a diversity of opinion.
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Old September 15 2012, 01:12 AM   #3
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Re: female audience reaction to Seven of Nine

I watched it via video rentals and was about a season behind initially, at least I remember when Endgame was released and that is what I was up to. I had read and seen nothing about VOY during this watch, I did not know what any fan reaction to anything was.

7 of 9 became my all time favorite character in about 5 minutes. It never entered my head she was some T and A addition.
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Old September 15 2012, 01:13 AM   #4
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Re: female audience reaction to Seven of Nine

I don't know if I was too young at the time to have any actual proper thoughts on the issue (being only 19 now), but to me anyway, the first time I watched it through completely about 5 years ago, I thought the main point wasn't so much that she was just a replacement for Kes or to look good. But to me it was more like a combination of the fact she is female and borg. It was the first time we'd seen a female borg character. If this character was male, I think it might have been harder to make the relationship she had with Janeway as believable.

I'm not so sure about this point, but I think people don't want to see a male character who is weak and vulnerable. I don't believe she was just eyecandy, her character also helped to develop many others, like Kim, Janeway and the Doctor. It explored the fact that it doesn't matter where you come from, you can still be accepted by others.

This post might not read through too well, but after all, it's friday night
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Old September 15 2012, 01:19 AM   #5
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Re: female audience reaction to Seven of Nine

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I'm not so sure about this point, but I think people don't want to see a male character who is weak and vulnerable. I don't believe she was just eyecandy, her character also helped to develop many others, like Kim, Janeway and the Doctor. It explored the fact that it doesn't matter where you come from, you can still be accepted by others.
Yes the reactions and relationships the other characters had to her brought out their own personality and contributed to their character arcs. The EMH had the same effect.
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Old September 15 2012, 01:50 AM   #6
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Did they feel she was a strong female character replacement for Kes leaving the show? Did they feel she was just T&A eye candy for the male audience?
Since I never liked Kes, I was looking forward to a new cast member.

First visual impression: Wow - Star Trek Borg Barbie!

Later impression: This is an intriguing character, and the actress can really ACT! While her physical attributes are rather noticeable, it's less so as the seasons went on and Seven's character and interactions with other people were explored.

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7 of 9 became my all time favorite character in about 5 minutes. It never entered my head she was some T and A addition.
Seven is my favorite Voyager character, no question. I've always liked the characters who don't necessarily fit in, or know how to fit in. Seven is Voyager's answer to Spock, in my opinion. She has a hybrid nature, and is struggling and learning every single day how to balance the two aspects of herself, while trying to bridge the learning gap she missed when she went from a 6-year-old human child to an adult Borg, with almost no socialization skills to help her at first.
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Old September 15 2012, 01:55 AM   #7
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It pretty much became the Seven of Nine show when she arrived.

It has always rubbed me the wrong way that they got rid of the cute sweet girl and replaced her with the cold hearted killer in season four.
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Old September 15 2012, 01:59 AM   #8
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Because cute sweet girls make such great tv.
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Old September 15 2012, 02:01 AM   #9
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Because cute sweet girls make such great tv.
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Old September 15 2012, 02:21 AM   #10
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Because cute sweet girls make such great tv.
Jeri Ryan was a fine actress.

But her character took over the show too much. TOS wasn't the Spock show, TNG wasn't the Data show, and DS9 gave everyone a ton of screentime.

VOY was much more of an ensemble in the first three seasons, which I missed later on.
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Old September 15 2012, 02:25 AM   #11
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Re: female audience reaction to Seven of Nine

I do so miss Jetfire.

Since this is a 7 of 9 thread I guess I can post my favorite 7 of 9 vid which captures her character development very beautifully.



Watch in HD if you can.
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Old September 15 2012, 02:25 AM   #12
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Because cute sweet girls make such great tv.
Jeri Ryan was a fine actress.

But her character took over the show too much. TOS wasn't the Spock show, TNG wasn't the Data show, and DS9 gave everyone a ton of screentime.
When your favorite character in the entire history of fiction takes over a show you don't complain.
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Old September 15 2012, 02:31 AM   #13
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Because cute sweet girls make such great tv.
Jeri Ryan was a fine actress.

But her character took over the show too much. TOS wasn't the Spock show, TNG wasn't the Data show, and DS9 gave everyone a ton of screentime.
When your favorite character in the entire history of fiction takes over a show you don't complain.
Resistance is futile.
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Old September 15 2012, 02:39 AM   #14
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Re: female audience reaction to Seven of Nine

Some people don't care for 7?

No problem, we can take care of that.

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Old September 15 2012, 02:46 AM   #15
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People!

The show was called Voyager, NOT The Seven of Nine Show as some might believe.
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