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Old September 13 2012, 10:43 AM   #76
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Re: IDW to publish post-Nemesis TNG Borg story, possibly Destiny

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Different from the novelverse, yes... but rather similar to the alternate timelines I alluded to in Watching the Clock, futures where the events of Destiny never occurred. Make of that what you will...
Are you now saying/implying that Braga does infact read the novels?
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Old September 13 2012, 03:01 PM   #77
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^Well, that's a given. The only IDW Trek comics to take place in the novel continuity are those written by novelists like KRAD or Peter David. Or that were retroactively embraced by the novels, as with Blood Will Tell and Alien Spotlight: Andor. Many of IDW's miniseries aren't even in continuity with each other; for instance, D. C. Fontana's The Enterprise Experiment envisions the late 5-year-mission era and the fate of the Klingon-Romulan alliance differently than John Byrne's comics do.

I'm not saying I'm surprised that Braga's comic is out of continuity with the novels. Of course it would be -- not only is he a busy TV producer who's probably never read the novels, but he's much higher in the Trek hierarchy than us lowly tie-in authors, so nobody would expect or ask him to follow the novelists' lead. I'm just noting the coincidence of how close in time these two radically different takes on the Borg's future happen to begin.
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Old September 13 2012, 03:12 PM   #78
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Different from the novelverse, yes... but rather similar to the alternate timelines I alluded to in Watching the Clock, futures where the events of Destiny never occurred. Make of that what you will...
Are you now saying/implying that Braga does infact read the novels?
I think it's more of a happy coincidence. After all, the same idea (the Borg eventually assimilating the galaxy) was used slightly differently in IDW's Alien Spotlight: Borg.
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Old September 13 2012, 03:17 PM   #79
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So that means the "present" portions are late 2381 or early '82? Which would be less than a year after Destiny takes place. Though clearly we're dealing with a separate timeline here.
I don't have the issue at hand, but I remember that the stardate was in the 58xxxx or 59xxx range. My "fifteen years" was a ballpark figure.
There was a recent interview with Braga where he said Hive is supposed to take place three years after Nemesis. Which should place it in 2382.Stardate 59xxx.x.
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Old September 13 2012, 03:27 PM   #80
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I think it's more of a happy coincidence. After all, the same idea (the Borg eventually assimilating the galaxy) was used slightly differently in IDW's Alien Spotlight: Borg.
And, of course, Braga (and RDM) referenced an alternate universe in "All Good Things..." where the Borg had done the same.
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Old September 13 2012, 03:40 PM   #81
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I think it's more of a happy coincidence. After all, the same idea (the Borg eventually assimilating the galaxy) was used slightly differently in IDW's Alien Spotlight: Borg.
And, of course, Braga (and RDM) referenced an alternate universe in "All Good Things..." where the Borg had done the same.
There's no such reference in AGT. I think you're thinking of Parallels (solely written by Braga) in which we do get a glimpse of a universe where the Federation has been overrun by the Borg.
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Old September 13 2012, 03:44 PM   #82
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Different from the novelverse, yes... but rather similar to the alternate timelines I alluded to in Watching the Clock, futures where the events of Destiny never occurred. Make of that what you will...
Are you now saying/implying that Braga does infact read the novels?
Huh? Of course not, why would you think that? It's hardly unusual for different creators working in the same universe to arrive at similar ideas -- in fact, it's pretty much unavoidable. And it's not as if "the Borg eventually conquer the whole galaxy" is a difficult idea to come up with. I'm just suggesting that, while of course this comic is offering a separate interpretation than the novelverse does, the reader could choose to interpret it as an alternate timeline following the precedent that's already been laid out in the prose. Although, of course, I haven't read the comic yet so I don't know for sure whether that could work.
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Old September 13 2012, 03:48 PM   #83
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I think it's more of a happy coincidence. After all, the same idea (the Borg eventually assimilating the galaxy) was used slightly differently in IDW's Alien Spotlight: Borg.
And, of course, Braga (and RDM) referenced an alternate universe in "All Good Things..." where the Borg had done the same.
There's no such reference in AGT. I think you're thinking of Parallels (solely written by Braga) in which we do get a glimpse of a universe where the Federation has been overrun by the Borg.
Oops. Yeah, meant "Parallels" - the only thing I was remembering clearly when I posted before was the inclusion of multiple Enterprises.
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Old September 13 2012, 05:11 PM   #84
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The overlap of comics and novel readers is perhaps only a small segment of the market. Novel-only readers hate being told that there is a comic mini-series they should read. (We've seen that complaint here, with people whining that they didn't understand references in the novels to events that occurred in "The Gorn Crisis", "Double Time", "Divided We Fall", "n-Vector", and so on).
And it probably works the other way around, too. Suppose you're just reading the comics and suddenly you're told that you have to read the novels, too, just to understand what's going on.

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Old September 13 2012, 09:20 PM   #85
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Is it wrong that I'm really looking forward to this?

It's okay, that was a rhetorical question.
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Old September 14 2012, 10:55 AM   #86
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Re: IDW to publish post-Nemesis TNG Borg story, possibly Destiny

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Or that were retroactively embraced by the novels, as with Blood Will Tell and Alien Spotlight: Andor.
Paul D Storrie, who wrote "The Old Ways" for "Alien Spotlight: Andor, deliberately included the four-partnered paradigm set up by the DS9 Relaunch novels.
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Old September 14 2012, 01:59 PM   #87
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I didn't remember that, but I did remember that the separatist group in "The Old Ways" was referenced in Paths of Disharmony.
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Old September 14 2012, 08:49 PM   #88
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Or that were retroactively embraced by the novels, as with Blood Will Tell and Alien Spotlight: Andor.
Paul D Storrie, who wrote "The Old Ways" for "Alien Spotlight: Andor, deliberately included the four-partnered paradigm set up by the DS9 Relaunch novels.
Alien Spotlight: Cardassians was mostly set on Ananke Alpha too, also from the DS9 novels.
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Old September 19 2012, 11:31 PM   #89
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I just read the first issue of Hive. I liked it.

I had my doubts when I heard it was Braga behind it, but the first issue was well done, solid writing and artwork. I hope that Braga has a little fun and introduces us to more of the Enterprise-D crew, such as Lt. Archer.

I thought it was interesting that Braga brought Vash back (I wonder if he created the character?) and his take on Seven of Nine was interesting. I wonder if Voyager had gone on or gotten a movie, if Braga would've pushed for that.
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Old September 19 2012, 11:35 PM   #90
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Irah Steven Behr wrote Captain's Holiday, Vash's first appearance, so I think that would make him her creator.
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