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Old September 10 2012, 01:16 PM   #91
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Damn cumulative error! Even carefully measuring the actual Val'Walo model and drawing it to scale, I'm 1/8" short on the drawing. Well, that's only 14.6 feet at 1/1400 scale.
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Old September 11 2012, 10:36 PM   #92
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Ha! Just in time to save the thread from the depths of the second page.

USS VAL'WALO:
(Upper - complete ship; lower: saucer separated, and foreground engine omitted to show hull).



This was a tough one, since it wasn't bashed from Enterprise parts that I could trace from existing plans. Had to actually loft this from the model.

Here's the model, bashed from a Gundam Val-Walo:
http://www.inpayne.com/models/kitbas...e_valwalo.html

Now for the top view. (Oy.)
If there is one thing that I learned while working on the Fuego class, it is that having some form of template helps a lot when working with vector art. That way, you'll at least have an idea of what you want the proportions to be like, and where to start laying everything out. Otherwise, it is easy to get bogged down when it comes to making sure everything matches up on all views, which has been the case with the Valkyrie.
Because of this, I think from now on, I'm going to make at least a simple or semi-detailed set of orthographic views before starting in Illustrator, and I should probably sketch a set for the Valkyrie.
Yeah, the more that a ship uses parts based on an already existing design (or more), the easier it is to make progress, but it seems that you're making progress just fine.

The parts you chose for the nacelles I think were a very good choice. Every time I see them, I can't help but notice how much I like them.

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Here's a sample one of the (very few) finished 2-page spreads from the tech manual in progress. At the moment it's at 82 pages, and the PDF version is about 190MB

Very good work on the Tech manual. I liked the comment where it says "They kicked the enemy's ass from here to next Tuesday". Well, except for maybe the U.S.S. Pompey Magnus, apparently. I wouldn't be surprised if you had already thought out a story behind her demise.
Though I think that when you say Pulse Phasers, I think you mean Mega-Phasers, which are (to my knowledge) supposed to be two different things.
I'm glad to see that we can confirm once and for all that the Couer De Lion is indeed a Conqueror class, and not the class ship. Any chance we will get the registry codes listed along with the names, or should I just assume their assigned codes at my own discretion?
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Old September 12 2012, 02:08 AM   #93
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(Okay, just kidding)
Needs another saucer.
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Old September 12 2012, 02:17 AM   #94
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^^^

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Old September 12 2012, 05:48 PM   #95
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Ha! Just in time to save the thread from the depths of the second page.

USS VAL'WALO:
(Upper - complete ship; lower: saucer separated, and foreground engine omitted to show hull).



This was a tough one, since it wasn't bashed from Enterprise parts that I could trace from existing plans. Had to actually loft this from the model.

Here's the model, bashed from a Gundam Val-Walo:
http://www.inpayne.com/models/kitbas...e_valwalo.html

Now for the top view. (Oy.)
If there is one thing that I learned while working on the Fuego class, it is that having some form of template helps a lot when working with vector art. That way, you'll at least have an idea of what you want the proportions to be like, and where to start laying everything out. Otherwise, it is easy to get bogged down when it comes to making sure everything matches up on all views, which has been the case with the Valkyrie.
Because of this, I think from now on, I'm going to make at least a simple or semi-detailed set of orthographic views before starting in Illustrator, and I should probably sketch a set for the Valkyrie.
Yeah, the more that a ship uses parts based on an already existing design (or more), the easier it is to make progress, but it seems that you're making progress just fine.

The parts you chose for the nacelles I think were a very good choice. Every time I see them, I can't help but notice how much I like them.

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Here's a sample one of the (very few) finished 2-page spreads from the tech manual in progress. At the moment it's at 82 pages, and the PDF version is about 190MB
Very good work on the Tech manual. I liked the comment where it says "They kicked the enemy's ass from here to next Tuesday". Well, except for maybe the U.S.S. Pompey Magnus, apparently. I wouldn't be surprised if you had already thought out a story behind her demise.
Though I think that when you say Pulse Phasers, I think you mean Mega-Phasers, which are (to my knowledge) supposed to be two different things.
I'm glad to see that we can confirm once and for all that the Couer De Lion is indeed a Conqueror class, and not the class ship. Any chance we will get the registry codes listed along with the names, or should I just assume their assigned codes at my own discretion?
I just called Pompey Magnus as lost 'cause the real Pompey Magnus didn't end well.

I'm not going to bother with lists of NCC numbers. That's too much to think about, too much chance of using numbers someone else used, or the show already used. I think between Jackill and Mastercom, ALL the numbers have been used!
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Old September 13 2012, 11:21 PM   #96
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Any chance we will get the registry codes listed along with the names, or should I just assume their assigned codes at my own discretion?
I just called Pompey Magnus as lost 'cause the real Pompey Magnus didn't end well.

I'm not going to bother with lists of NCC numbers. That's too much to think about, too much chance of using numbers someone else used, or the show already used. I think between Jackill and Mastercom, ALL the numbers have been used!
Actually, I did check some time in the past, and to my knowledge, there are registries in the 3130 range that haven't been used yet, last time I checked. There are indeed many empty patches in the quad digit range here and there, especially after the 3000 range.
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Old September 14 2012, 01:46 PM   #97
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That's more checking than I have the energy for!

Should have the top view of the Val'Walo done this weekend. I'm just pooping around with it 1/2 hour or so a day. This one is seriously challenging my vector-blend shading skills.
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Old September 14 2012, 04:04 PM   #98
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ay Pulse Phasers, I think you mean Mega-Phasers, which are (to my knowledge) supposed to be two different things.
I've seen both names used in fandom. I realize the pulse-phaser moniker is used by the Defiant's supposedly-new breakthru weapons, but "mega-phaser" just sounds so silly (Sorry Jackill - ya know I love ya).

If there's a definitive (if anything in fanfic can be called definitive) name, I'll be happy to fall in line and use it.
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Old September 16 2012, 10:52 PM   #99
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That's more checking than I have the energy for!

Should have the top view of the Val'Walo done this weekend. I'm just pooping around with it 1/2 hour or so a day. This one is seriously challenging my vector-blend shading skills.
I can understand that. I've probably spent too much time looking for unused registries, and not enough time working on starship orthographics.

You're obviously way more skilled with vector art than me. Any less than 2 hours usually doesn't result in much, if any real headway.

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ay Pulse Phasers, I think you mean Mega-Phasers, which are (to my knowledge) supposed to be two different things.
I've seen both names used in fandom. I realize the pulse-phaser moniker is used by the Defiant's supposedly-new breakthru weapons, but "mega-phaser" just sounds so silly (Sorry Jackill - ya know I love ya).

If there's a definitive (if anything in fanfic can be called definitive) name, I'll be happy to fall in line and use it.
I could have sworn that Jackill wasn't the only source to use the term. But "mega-phaser" and "pulse phaser" seems to be the only two terms as far as I know that are used to label the phaser cannons. I don't remember if the term "mega-phaser" is used in canon though, only that it is used frequently in many sources. It's no more silly than the term "Turbolaser" used in Star Wars though.
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Old September 18 2012, 02:02 AM   #100
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I'm tempted to say Mastercom used the term for some of their ships as well, but I could be wrong about that.
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Old September 18 2012, 07:35 AM   #101
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Ha! Just in time to save the thread from the depths of the second page.

USS VAL'WALO:
(Upper - complete ship; lower: saucer separated, and foreground engine omitted to show hull).



This was a tough one, since it wasn't bashed from Enterprise parts that I could trace from existing plans. Had to actually loft this from the model.

Here's the model, bashed from a Gundam Val-Walo:
http://www.inpayne.com/models/kitbas...e_valwalo.html

Now for the top view. (Oy.)
OMG - I remember seeing the model for this ship a while back. It's a great combo of awesome and cute - well done!

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Old September 18 2012, 01:04 PM   #102
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Awesome and cute! I like it!
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Old September 19 2012, 01:27 AM   #103
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That was a tough one!
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Old September 19 2012, 03:28 PM   #104
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Awesome!!
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Old September 19 2012, 11:22 PM   #105
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Of that I'm sure, but it looks like you managed just fine!
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