Spock & Spock Prime: Was the Torch Successfully Passed?

Spock/Uhura Fan · September 11 2012, 01:45 PM

Hello, another poll for you all.

Hopefully, this can be a thread that is one part poll, one part discussion/debate, and one part appreciation of either or both actors and their common role. My answer to the poll question is an obvious YES! I think Zachary Quinto did a wonderful job picking up where Nimoy's Spock could have left off if events and circumstances had been different in the Prime timeline.

I also love the fact that the two of them appear to have a wonderful friendship that, no doubt, played its part in how well Zachary was able to take on the role of Mr. Spock and put his own little bit of pizzazz in there as well.

What do you think? Was Zachary's portrayal of this iconic character the beginning of greatness, or an epic fail of major proportions? Obviously, the writing has something to do with how the character was received, but I'm asking purely about the performance. Please feel free to leave your thoughts about the writing after you say what you did or didn't like about Mr. Quinto's delivery.

And to help start off this thread, here's a scene that I just love from the movie. I think it's one of the BEST!!!

:

(Mr. Spock Prime wishes our "new" Mr. Spock "Good luck."

)

teacake · September 11 2012, 01:50 PM

The torch was not only passed it burns brighter.

Spock/Uhura Fan · September 11 2012, 01:53 PM

teacake wrote:

The torch was not only passed it burns brighter.

I love them both, but I have to say that Zachary is pretty awesome.

You know, it was my interest in Zachary that got me to see how wonderful Mr. Nimoy is. Truly great.

King Daniel Into Darkness · September 11 2012, 02:01 PM

Yes, torch very much passed. Not just for Spock, but for the whole crew. This video pretty much sums up the epicness levels for me...

Methos · September 11 2012, 02:02 PM

loved it...

Zachary does an awesome Spock, and i hope he keeps the character alive for a long time

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Neumann · September 11 2012, 02:09 PM

It was a good performance but we need more witty spock than angry spock!

teacake · September 11 2012, 02:12 PM

I think he brought out the heart of Spock, that we always knew was there. He blew me away how much he keyed into what we always knew was essential Spock, only more raw because of youth and personal tragedy. It was one of the greatest movie experiences of my life to see Quinto's Spock.

The essence of every piece of Spock fanfic ever, LOL

teacake · September 11 2012, 02:16 PM

Neumann wrote:

It was a good performance but we need more witty spock than angry spock!

Oh I don't know..

"I intend to assist in the effort to reestablish communication with Starfleet. However, if crew morale is better served by my roaming the halls weeping, I will gladly defer to your medical expertise. Excuse me. "

BillJ · September 11 2012, 03:05 PM

I honestly thought he did well. But I didn't like that he had to compete with Nimoy (which is one reason I was in favor of a hard reboot) and the softer voice takes some getting use to. Especially after spending thirty-five years of hearing Nimoy's voice.

Temis the Vorta · September 11 2012, 07:23 PM

Quinto was so perfect, it's like they ordered him from the Spock Factory.

And if there's one character in all fiction that I would say was unrecastable, it's Spock. The only noticeable difference is the voice - Quinto's isn't as deep.

teacake · September 11 2012, 10:42 PM

Temis the Vorta wrote:

Quinto was so perfect, it's like they ordered him from the Spock Factory.

And if there's one character in all fiction that I would say was unrecastable, it's Spock. The only noticeable difference is the voice - Quinto's isn't as deep.

He got a lot of the body language the same which always impresses me. The voice, well maybe he hasn't quite hit all the Vulcan puberty milestones.

UFO · September 11 2012, 11:27 PM

teacake wrote:

Neumann wrote:

It was a good performance but we need more witty spock than angry spock!

Oh I don't know..

"I intend to assist in the effort to reestablish communication with Starfleet. However, if crew morale is better served by my roaming the halls weeping, I will gladly defer to your medical expertise. Excuse me. "

Yes, credit where its due, that was classic Spock (in fact I wouldn't be surprised if there is a similar scene in TOS

), however by the film's end I get the feeling they are saying: "But we've decided to go another way". In that respect it was a kind of "Spock of two halves" situation.

Never-the-less I think Quinto did as good a job as anyone who isn't (TOS) Nimoy could hope to do from the point of view of his performance. At least when taken separately from what may be happening to the character.

Caligula · September 11 2012, 11:34 PM

Out of all the actors, Zachary Quinto did the best job of making you believe he was who he was supposed to be.

Set Harth · September 12 2012, 02:42 AM

The third film could be The Search for the Spock Factory.

teacake · September 12 2012, 05:56 AM

UFO wrote:

teacake wrote:

Neumann wrote:

It was a good performance but we need more witty spock than angry spock!

Oh I don't know..

"I intend to assist in the effort to reestablish communication with Starfleet. However, if crew morale is better served by my roaming the halls weeping, I will gladly defer to your medical expertise. Excuse me. "

Yes, credit where its due, that was classic Spock (in fact I wouldn't be surprised if there is a similar scene in TOS

),

Yep, I posted about it here:

http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?...8&postcount=16

View Poll Results: How do you feel about Zachary Quinto as the new Mr. Spock?
GREAT Performance!!! I loved it.	29	69.05%
He did okay. So far, so good.	10	23.81%
Mmm, I'm not sure.	1	2.38%
FAIL!!! Who hired that guy???	2	4.76%
Voters: 42. You may not vote on this poll

September 11 2012, 01:45 PM	#1
Spock/Uhura Fan Captain Location: Where It's At.	Spock & Spock Prime: Was the Torch Successfully Passed? Hello, another poll for you all. Hopefully, this can be a thread that is one part poll, one part discussion/debate, and one part appreciation of either or both actors and their common role. My answer to the poll question is an obvious YES! I think Zachary Quinto did a wonderful job picking up where Nimoy's Spock could have left off if events and circumstances had been different in the Prime timeline. I also love the fact that the two of them appear to have a wonderful friendship that, no doubt, played its part in how well Zachary was able to take on the role of Mr. Spock and put his own little bit of pizzazz in there as well. What do you think? Was Zachary's portrayal of this iconic character the beginning of greatness, or an epic fail of major proportions? Obviously, the writing has something to do with how the character was received, but I'm asking purely about the performance. Please feel free to leave your thoughts about the writing after you say what you did or didn't like about Mr. Quinto's delivery. And to help start off this thread, here's a scene that I just love from the movie. I think it's one of the BEST!!! : (Mr. Spock Prime wishes our "new" Mr. Spock "Good luck." ) __________________ "I recognize the council has made a decision, but given that it's a stupid ass decision, I've elected to ignore it." - Nick Fury on The Power of Choice

September 11 2012, 01:50 PM	#2
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: Spock & Spock Prime: Was the Torch Successfully Passed? The torch was not only passed it burns brighter. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

September 11 2012, 02:01 PM	#4
King Daniel Into Darkness Admiral Location: KingDaniel has fallen Into Darkness (in England)	Re: Spock & Spock Prime: Was the Torch Successfully Passed? Yes, torch very much passed. Not just for Spock, but for the whole crew. This video pretty much sums up the epicness levels for me... __________________ Star Trek Imponderables, fun video mashups of Trek's biggest continuity errors. Episode One Episode Two

September 11 2012, 02:02 PM	#5
Methos First Officer: USS Aventine Location: Hiding under Gaila's bed...	Re: Spock & Spock Prime: Was the Torch Successfully Passed? loved it... Zachary does an awesome Spock, and i hope he keeps the character alive for a long time M __________________ In Russia, a 122 year old man has passed away, he credited his long life to abtaining from alcohol, tobacco and women. His last words were "I've made a huge mistake."

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September 11 2012, 02:09 PM	#6
Neumann Captain Location: Caracas, Venezuela	Re: Spock & Spock Prime: Was the Torch Successfully Passed? It was a good performance but we need more witty spock than angry spock! __________________ It's all about canon being violated! ;-)

September 11 2012, 02:12 PM	#7
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: Spock & Spock Prime: Was the Torch Successfully Passed? I think he brought out the heart of Spock, that we always knew was there. He blew me away how much he keyed into what we always knew was essential Spock, only more raw because of youth and personal tragedy. It was one of the greatest movie experiences of my life to see Quinto's Spock. The essence of every piece of Spock fanfic ever, LOL __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

September 11 2012, 03:05 PM	#9
BillJ Vice Admiral Location: Greater Cincinnati	Re: Spock & Spock Prime: Was the Torch Successfully Passed? I honestly thought he did well. But I didn't like that he had to compete with Nimoy (which is one reason I was in favor of a hard reboot) and the softer voice takes some getting use to. Especially after spending thirty-five years of hearing Nimoy's voice. __________________ Boobies are evil!!!

September 11 2012, 07:23 PM	#10
Temis the Vorta Fleet Admiral Location: Tatoinne	Re: Spock & Spock Prime: Was the Torch Successfully Passed? Quinto was so perfect, it's like they ordered him from the Spock Factory. And if there's one character in all fiction that I would say was unrecastable, it's Spock. The only noticeable difference is the voice - Quinto's isn't as deep.

September 11 2012, 11:34 PM	#13
Caligula Vice Admiral Location: Knoxville, TN USA	Re: Spock & Spock Prime: Was the Torch Successfully Passed? Out of all the actors, Zachary Quinto did the best job of making you believe he was who he was supposed to be.

September 12 2012, 02:42 AM	#14
Set Harth Commodore Location: Ekkaia	Re: Spock & Spock Prime: Was the Torch Successfully Passed? The third film could be The Search for the Spock Factory. __________________ Are you casting aspersions on my asparagus?