Another "Wonder Woman" show now in early development - Page 7

Nerys Myk · September 10 2012, 05:50 AM

Mars wrote:

Captain Craig wrote:

Dream wrote:

That's Thor's gimmick.

...and Storm's.

But Thor was the son of Odin, not Zeus, and Storm was a mutant, not a Demigod at all, while Thor was a full god. Probably Wonder Woman could attend Camp Half-Blood in the Percy Jackson novels. Another character in those novels could fly by controlling the winds and getting them to blow him around. Some versions of Wonder Woman can fly, so I wonder if this one does, or does she have an invisible plane? Wonder Woman would also have to be part Jedi to use those bracelets to deflect bullets.

Or be gifted with the speed of Mercury/Hermes. Oh wait, she was!!!!

Silvercrest · September 10 2012, 06:08 AM

Mars wrote:

So basically NOW Wonder Woman is a Demigod, much like Hercules and Percy Jackson in the Percy Jackson novels. In Percy Jackson novels, Demigods are mortal, they age, but they gain powers from their godly parent, in Wonder Woman's case those powers would include the strength of Hercules, since Zeus is the god of the sky, she might have the power of flight or she might not, I don't think she can cast lightning bolts.

Mars wrote:

Captain Craig wrote:

Dream wrote:

That's Thor's gimmick.

...and Storm's.

But Thor was the son of Odin, not Zeus, and Storm was a mutant, not a Demigod at all, while Thor was a full god.

This reads as if you're arguing with yourself. No one has suggested she can cast lightning.

Some versions of Wonder Woman can fly, so I wonder if this one does, or does she have an invisible plane?

A plane? What are the odds she even has a driver's licence?

Probably Wonder Woman could attend Camp Half-Blood in the Percy Jackson novels.

Wonder Woman would also have to be part Jedi to use those bracelets to deflect bullets.

Reality check, please.

Guy Gardener · September 10 2012, 07:02 AM

Wonder Woman can fly as fast as Superman.

If she can crack mach 10 and still dodge pigeon strikes, then bullets should be no problem.

Mars · September 10 2012, 11:40 AM

Nerys Myk wrote:

Mars wrote:

Captain Craig wrote:

...and Storm's.

But Thor was the son of Odin, not Zeus, and Storm was a mutant, not a Demigod at all, while Thor was a full god. Probably Wonder Woman could attend Camp Half-Blood in the Percy Jackson novels. Another character in those novels could fly by controlling the winds and getting them to blow him around. Some versions of Wonder Woman can fly, so I wonder if this one does, or does she have an invisible plane? Wonder Woman would also have to be part Jedi to use those bracelets to deflect bullets.

Or be gifted with the speed of Mercury/Hermes. Oh wait, she was!!!!

Speed usually comes with strength, you need strong leg muscles to run really fast. Superman can go fast because he's strong. Separating the two abilities doesn't really make sense, for instance the Flash is fast but not strong.

Mars · September 10 2012, 11:43 AM

Guy Gardener wrote:

Wonder Woman can fly as fast as Superman.

If she can crack mach 10 and still dodge pigeon strikes, then bullets should be no problem.

There is a difference between speed and agility. Speed is the ability to move very fast in a straight line. One can move really fast, yet not see the bullets coming, fighter pilots are like that, they can break the speed of sound in their airplanes, yet their reflexes are no faster.

Methos · September 10 2012, 11:50 AM

Wonder Woman is a HELL of a lot more agile than Superman...

quick example... bullets and bracelets... she's fast and agile enough to move her wrists in front of oncoming bullets, to recochet them away on an angle of her choosing...

And can snatch arrows out of the air... proving her dexterity and agility are far above normal human levels...

While she may look in her mid to late twenties, don't forget she's an immortal... having lived on Thymyscria for centuries, perhaps millenia, training as an amazon warrior in battle and mind

M

Nerys Myk · September 10 2012, 04:05 PM

Mars wrote:

Nerys Myk wrote:

Mars wrote:

But Thor was the son of Odin, not Zeus, and Storm was a mutant, not a Demigod at all, while Thor was a full god. Probably Wonder Woman could attend Camp Half-Blood in the Percy Jackson novels. Another character in those novels could fly by controlling the winds and getting them to blow him around. Some versions of Wonder Woman can fly, so I wonder if this one does, or does she have an invisible plane? Wonder Woman would also have to be part Jedi to use those bracelets to deflect bullets.

Or be gifted with the speed of Mercury/Hermes. Oh wait, she was!!!!

Speed usually comes with strength, you need strong leg muscles to run really fast. Superman can go fast because he's strong. Separating the two abilities doesn't really make sense, for instance the Flash is fast but not strong.

Wonder Woman is strong and fast. She's probably as strong and fast as Superman. Both are gifts from the Gods in her case. Superman is strong because he's a Kryptonian living on Earth. On Krypton his strength might be average.

The Flash is probably stronger than most humans, but his speed is also related to changes is his physiology. His has control over every atom in his body. Even in the real world, a runner is going be different than a weightlifter.

Nerys Myk · September 10 2012, 04:10 PM

Methos wrote:

Wonder Woman is a HELL of a lot more agile than Superman...

quick example... bullets and bracelets... she's fast and agile enough to move her wrists in front of oncoming bullets, to recochet them away on an angle of her choosing...

And can snatch arrows out of the air... proving her dexterity and agility are far above normal human levels...

While she may look in her mid to late twenties, don't forget she's an immortal... having lived on Thymyscria for centuries, perhaps millenia, training as an amazon warrior in battle and mind

M

True, but I've had my doubts about her being centuries old. I don't recall any indication that she was "born" more than a couple of decades age. She's definitely trained almost since birth as a warrior though.

Methos · September 10 2012, 04:22 PM

Well i suppose it depends which origin story we go with...

I normally stick to the 'forged by clay' storyline, as that's the one i know readily enough... but the new Wonder Woman comics say that Hyppolyta had an affair with Zeus before the God's left earth, and their affair led to Diana's conception. The truth of her divinity was kept secret in order to protect Diana from the wrath of Hera, whose jealousy was notorious...

So modern storylines put Wonder Woman at about 1800 give or take... given the 'Gods' left Earth somewhere between 200 and 400ad according to DC's timeline...

M

Relayer1 · September 10 2012, 04:28 PM

kirk55555 wrote:

The dark Knight is the worst movie I've ever seen, but I agree with your point. To me, DC's last great superhero movie was Batman with Keaton/Nicholson.

Nope - just can't see this and can't let it go, so sorry for dragging the thread back,but...

TDK was easily the best of the Nolan trilogy and by a long way DC's best film so far. The old Keaton Batmans were so-so at best...

Mars · September 10 2012, 06:41 PM

Methos wrote:

Well i suppose it depends which origin story we go with...

I normally stick to the 'forged by clay' storyline, as that's the one i know readily enough... but the new Wonder Woman comics say that Hyppolyta had an affair with Zeus before the God's left earth, and their affair led to Diana's conception. The truth of her divinity was kept secret in order to protect Diana from the wrath of Hera, whose jealousy was notorious...

So modern storylines put Wonder Woman at about 1800 give or take... given the 'Gods' left Earth somewhere between 200 and 400ad according to DC's timeline...

M

About the time Christianity left the Roman Empire, in such a case, Wonder Woman would then be the daughter of Jupiter, as Rome was the predominant civilization back then. Still if were talking about a young Wonder Woman it would have to be either in the late Roman Empire or the Dark Ages, so Jupiter/Zeus would have had to be fooling around more recently with Hyppolyta if Wonder Woman is to be a young girl just entering school. If she is an immortal then she'll stay a young adult as soon as she grows up and could be over a thousand years old and not look it. Another thing if Zeus/Jupiter is her father from an affair with Hyppolyta, that makes Hera/Juno her enemy in the same way it did for Hercules. Hera/Juno is famous for her jealosy and taking it out on the offspring of Zeus/Jupiter's affairs.

Methos · September 10 2012, 06:46 PM

not sure about a lot of that, as mythology isn't my strong suit really...

I can tell you that in the comics, Hercules, or Heracles in the comics, is the mortal enemy of the Amazons... after pillaging, enslaving, and raping a lot of them... which again happened before the 'Gods' left earth apparently

M

Guy Gardener · September 10 2012, 07:03 PM

There was a comic where Diana got pissed off when she found out that her mum still sided with and helped Hercules escape Amazon prison even after he had raped and killed a bunch of Amazons during a failed invasion.

Methos · September 10 2012, 07:17 PM

yeah he's popped up a few times, typically whenever Diana and Hercules meet, there's some serious property damage, and lots of insurance agencies go bankrupt lol

M

Mars · September 10 2012, 07:21 PM

Methos wrote:

not sure about a lot of that, as mythology isn't my strong suit really...

I can tell you that in the comics, Hercules, or Heracles in the comics, is the mortal enemy of the Amazons... after pillaging, enslaving, and raping a lot of them... which again happened before the 'Gods' left earth apparently

M

And now Diana has him for a half-brother, I wonder how she feels about that.

September 10 2012, 07:02 AM	#93
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: Another "Wonder Woman" show now in early development Wonder Woman can fly as fast as Superman. If she can crack mach 10 and still dodge pigeon strikes, then bullets should be no problem. __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz

September 10 2012, 11:50 AM	#96
Methos First Officer: USS Aventine Location: Hiding under Gaila's bed...	Re: Another "Wonder Woman" show now in early development Wonder Woman is a HELL of a lot more agile than Superman... quick example... bullets and bracelets... she's fast and agile enough to move her wrists in front of oncoming bullets, to recochet them away on an angle of her choosing... And can snatch arrows out of the air... proving her dexterity and agility are far above normal human levels... While she may look in her mid to late twenties, don't forget she's an immortal... having lived on Thymyscria for centuries, perhaps millenia, training as an amazon warrior in battle and mind M __________________ In Russia, a 122 year old man has passed away, he credited his long life to abtaining from alcohol, tobacco and women. His last words were "I've made a huge mistake."

September 10 2012, 04:22 PM	#99
Methos First Officer: USS Aventine Location: Hiding under Gaila's bed...	Re: Another "Wonder Woman" show now in early development Well i suppose it depends which origin story we go with... I normally stick to the 'forged by clay' storyline, as that's the one i know readily enough... but the new Wonder Woman comics say that Hyppolyta had an affair with Zeus before the God's left earth, and their affair led to Diana's conception. The truth of her divinity was kept secret in order to protect Diana from the wrath of Hera, whose jealousy was notorious... So modern storylines put Wonder Woman at about 1800 give or take... given the 'Gods' left Earth somewhere between 200 and 400ad according to DC's timeline... M __________________ In Russia, a 122 year old man has passed away, he credited his long life to abtaining from alcohol, tobacco and women. His last words were "I've made a huge mistake."

September 10 2012, 06:46 PM	#102
Methos First Officer: USS Aventine Location: Hiding under Gaila's bed...	Re: Another "Wonder Woman" show now in early development not sure about a lot of that, as mythology isn't my strong suit really... I can tell you that in the comics, Hercules, or Heracles in the comics, is the mortal enemy of the Amazons... after pillaging, enslaving, and raping a lot of them... which again happened before the 'Gods' left earth apparently M __________________ In Russia, a 122 year old man has passed away, he credited his long life to abtaining from alcohol, tobacco and women. His last words were "I've made a huge mistake."

September 10 2012, 07:03 PM	#103
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: Another "Wonder Woman" show now in early development There was a comic where Diana got pissed off when she found out that her mum still sided with and helped Hercules escape Amazon prison even after he had raped and killed a bunch of Amazons during a failed invasion. __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz

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September 10 2012, 07:17 PM	#104
Methos First Officer: USS Aventine Location: Hiding under Gaila's bed...	Re: Another "Wonder Woman" show now in early development yeah he's popped up a few times, typically whenever Diana and Hercules meet, there's some serious property damage, and lots of insurance agencies go bankrupt lol M __________________ In Russia, a 122 year old man has passed away, he credited his long life to abtaining from alcohol, tobacco and women. His last words were "I've made a huge mistake."