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Old September 7 2012, 06:58 AM   #2356
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ugh, another 2 weeks of the dropbox crap...

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Old September 7 2012, 07:51 AM   #2357
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So timeship on 21 September?
That would be my guess, too
This would also mean that KDF will finally get a new ship,
but I think the complaint on the forums will be that it is not a C-store ship.

I wonder if we ever see a new KDF ship in the C-storeConsidering that the Feds have gotten at least three new ones in a fairly short period of time (nothing against the FED ships, though..)
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Old September 7 2012, 08:52 AM   #2358
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KDF ships don't sell well enough for them to put the effort in. Dan said as much.

Tholian Ship prices rising? Yay!!! (Checks if Orb Weaver Box is still in Bank)
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Old September 7 2012, 10:51 AM   #2359
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Then again, a Korath class ship leaked into the Foundry...
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Old September 7 2012, 04:42 PM   #2360
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And in other news, Tholian Lockboxes will stop dropping on 20 September. Exchange prices on the Orb Weaver and Recluse Carrier have already jumped 10 million ec since the announcement.

So timeship on 21 September?
What about for the Mirror Universe ships?
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Old September 8 2012, 03:51 AM   #2361
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The MU ships have been cheap as dirt because they're so common. They'll probably go up in price a little after the boxes go out, but I can't imagine by much.

So, I've ground out enough Zen for a new ship for my Tactical captain, and have been trying to decide which one. My fleet patrol escort will probably continue to be my main vessel because of it's superior stats and the extra console slot, but I want to give myself a few different offense-minded play styles as time goes on. MVAE, Heavy Escort Carrier or Assault Cruiser Refit.

I have the run-of-the-mill assault cruiser but could NOT make it work. I think I'd do better with it now just because I've gotten the hang of the Negh'Var on the KDF side, and that wide angle torp launcher looks nice. And of course, it's a cruiser rather than another escort. MVAE would let me play with some science skills that haven't been in my repertoire yet and also experience the separated version. HEC looks like a similar (identical?) BOff layout to the patrol escort that I'm very comfortable in, but gives the hangar in addition.

I'm finding it surprisingly hard to make a decision. Of course, I could also get myself a new KDF ship, like the Guramba, but I think I want to stick with cruisers on that toon.
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Old September 8 2012, 09:40 AM   #2362
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What I like about the original Sovereign is that it is brilliantly balanced. It can be a formidable tank, nearly impossible to kill, maybe even more so than starcruisers and exploration cruisers thanks to that extra tac team you can slot only outtanked by the Odyssey.
It still has some teeth if not really a top damage dealer, but thanks to its 3 tac consoles it can provide some real pressure over Time.

What did you try to do with it, that wouldn't work?

If you want to go a strict damage route, the refit might be indeed the best cruiser for that. You compromise your survivability a bit and probably won't tank more than one enemy (player ships) without support.
Only competitors here are the Excelsior and Galor who turn better and trade ab ensign tac for an engineer.
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Old September 8 2012, 01:35 PM   #2363
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I was getting blown up very easily in the assault cruiser, far more so than in the base-model patrol escort, which just seemed wrong. It was more a case of having the right BOff skills I think, and struggling with the loss of turn rate. Doing less damage AND dying faster didn't make for a fun experience. Now I must admit that I didn't stick with it for very long. It also probably didn't help that my Tac captain is specced out with an escort in mind.

I have some cruiser oriented BOffs just waiting for a ship to fly, but they probably still need some adjustment. I've got the hang of escorts--if I chose another one I don't think it would be much of a challenge. The cruiser, though, would present some effort to master, and I'm leaning towards it for that reason.
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Old September 8 2012, 02:30 PM   #2364
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Yeah, if you build with an escort in mind the regent is the better choice.

If you want to tank well in the Sovereign, your entire skill tree needs to be reworked away from being damage dealer and an engineer does it better of course., but a tac can do it, too.

Make sure you max shield and armor over weapons, get skill points in hull and shield repair, damage resistance, etc and use gear accordingly. Then take a look at skills.
At some point you will be able to get chased by the entire KDF and not get killed (unless they power drain you to oblivion).
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Old September 10 2012, 03:46 AM   #2365
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I just bought the Regent and I got to say I like it a lot more than the Galor.

Not that the Galor is bad. Almost nothing could penetrate its shields and it often takes the combined beating of 5+ ships to bring the Galor down. Which kinda makes the ship very boring to play since all I was doing was mashing the same sequence of buttons again and again.

The Regent on the other hand, is crewed by 2 Engineers, 3 Tactical officers and NO science officers. All it has is a single Aux2SIF hull heal but in exchange the ship deals a lot more damage than the Galor ever could. It is a riskier config which makes the ship a lot more fun to command.
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Old September 10 2012, 07:24 AM   #2366
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Still wondering if weather to be an engineer or science. How should the Miranda be fitted out, since I'll probably be using this one for awhile once I get things going.
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Old September 10 2012, 09:14 AM   #2367
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Still wondering if weather to be an engineer or science.
I'm assuming this is your first character? Engineer or Tactical Officer are equally good choices. I wouldn't recommend your first character to be a Science Officer as their ships and skills are somewhat... complicated to configure properly. Most new science officers I've seen simply give up on science vessels and either switch to escorts or cruisers.


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How should the Miranda be fitted out, since I'll probably be using this one for awhile once I get things going.
It doesn't really matter as you will grow in levels very quickly and will be awarded new ships very soon.
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Old September 10 2012, 09:14 AM   #2368
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I just bought the Regent and I got to say I like it a lot more than the Galor.

Not that the Galor is bad. Almost nothing could penetrate its shields and it often takes the combined beating of 5+ ships to bring the Galor down. Which kinda makes the ship very boring to play since all I was doing was mashing the same sequence of buttons again and again.

The Regent on the other hand, is crewed by 2 Engineers, 3 Tactical officers and NO science officers. All it has is a single Aux2SIF hull heal but in exchange the ship deals a lot more damage than the Galor ever could. It is a riskier config which makes the ship a lot more fun to command.
You realize, the Regent has a Lieutenant Universal Station, you can use science officers there.

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Still wondering if weather to be an engineer or science. How should the Miranda be fitted out, since I'll probably be using this one for awhile once I get things going.
Actually, you probably spend just a few hours in the Miranda. Just use gear from loot drops and you will be fine. No need to invest energy credits, which you won't have enough of in the beginning.
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Old September 10 2012, 11:17 AM   #2369
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I just bought the Regent and I got to say I like it a lot more than the Galor.

Not that the Galor is bad. Almost nothing could penetrate its shields and it often takes the combined beating of 5+ ships to bring the Galor down. Which kinda makes the ship very boring to play since all I was doing was mashing the same sequence of buttons again and again.

The Regent on the other hand, is crewed by 2 Engineers, 3 Tactical officers and NO science officers. All it has is a single Aux2SIF hull heal but in exchange the ship deals a lot more damage than the Galor ever could. It is a riskier config which makes the ship a lot more fun to command.
You realize, the Regent has a Lieutenant Universal Station, you can use science officers there.
I know. It was an intentional choice not to have a science officer.
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Old September 10 2012, 11:45 AM   #2370
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I also just got the Assault cruiser refit, and I've been considering putting a tactical officer on that spot just to see how it would perform, but it seems like it would drastically impact survivability. Might be fun for giggles.

So, a few weeks ago I was very disappointed with my slow progress on diplomatic cxp, as I was plodding along making very little progress. I made a conscious decision to focus on diplomacy DOff missions first, and yesterday hit level 4 diplomacy. Boy did that feel like an accomplishment!
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