Quite a lot of death and destruction..... - Page 2

C.E. Evans · September 4 2012, 03:35 PM

I dunno. For me, yes, there was definitely an apocalypse during the time of Destiny and some reconstruction blues afterward--but I think for the most part, the past year has been something of a throwback to the TOS era in which the Federation is mired in political, economic, and technological struggles with a serious rival nation or two. But I do think the farther one goes from home, the less safe space becomes. In that sense, our heroes are in the business of trying to tame a wild and dangerous frontier.

Edit_XYZ · September 4 2012, 03:39 PM

Use of Time wrote:

Q said it best "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross, but it's not for the timid."

"a little bloody nose" is no longer accurate.
These days, it's more like "beaten to a pulp" every other book.

The reason is equally simple: it sells books these days.

Greg Cox · September 4 2012, 04:34 PM

Use of Time wrote:

Q said it best "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross, but it's not for the timid."

A great bit. One of my all-time favorite STAR TREK quotes.

JD · September 4 2012, 05:00 PM

Paris wrote:

^I've always loved the DS9 ep with Quark and the other Ferengi trying to save Quark & Rom's mom. Iggy Pop was the Vorta adversary I believe. Funny stuff

The Magnificent Ferengi. It's a favorite of mine too. And of course there was also Trials & Tribble-ations.
I also thought Bride of Chaotica, and A Fist Full of Datas were pretty good in VOY and TNG.

Paris · September 4 2012, 05:09 PM

JD wrote:

...and of course there was also Trials & Tribble-ations. I also thought Bride of Chaotica, and A Fist Full of Datas were pretty good in VOY and TNG.

Agreed on all fronts

Brit · September 4 2012, 05:24 PM

Edit_XYZ wrote:

The reason is equally simple: it sells books these days.

Not really, currently it is thought that dystrophic themes sell books but since no one is writing any other kind, that is not necessarily true. The general thinking has been, only 15 year old boys read Science Fiction and therefore Trek, but that doesn't make that assumption true either.

Greg Cox · September 4 2012, 06:07 PM

"Little Green Men" is a classic.

Paris · September 4 2012, 06:36 PM

Greg Cox wrote:

"Little Green Men" is a classic.

I was just thinking that. Quark in 1940's America was great

Greg Cox · September 4 2012, 06:54 PM

Edit_XYZ wrote:

The reason is equally simple: it sells books these days.

For the record, I'm not aware of any official strategy or policy to that effect.

Nobody at CBS or Pocket Books has ever told me that I need to add more death or destruction to my books.

Heck, it's sometimes the other way around.

(Believe it or not, the Terminator people once asked me to tone down the violence in my book!)

Mage · September 4 2012, 07:39 PM

Christopher wrote:

I think DS9 had some very funny episodes.

Definatly, and I suppose that's sort of what I'd love to see in TrekLit. I'm not sure an actual 'comedy' would work, but I'd love to see something a bit lighter right now.

Mind you, I have no complaints about the novels themselves, nothing at all. Sure, there have been a few less then stellar novels over the last three years. But in general, I'm a happy man. I'd just love to some more optimism in TrekLit, that things not only seem to be going the right way, but are actually staying there for a while.

Paris · September 4 2012, 09:40 PM

^I think New Frontier might fit the bill. Not always super light, but lighter than the mainline books of late

...but you may have already read them. Just sayin'...

WarsTrek1993 · September 5 2012, 01:11 AM

Greg Cox wrote:

(Believe it or not, the Terminator people once asked me to tone down the violence in my book!)

Tone down violence...in a Terminator novel?!

Greg Cox · September 5 2012, 01:24 AM

WarsTrek1993 wrote:

Greg Cox wrote:

(Believe it or not, the Terminator people once asked me to tone down the violence in my book!)

Tone down violence...in a Terminator novel?!

I guess I got a little carried away!

Relayer1 · September 5 2012, 10:54 AM

Greg Cox wrote:

WarsTrek1993 wrote:

Greg Cox wrote:

(Believe it or not, the Terminator people once asked me to tone down the violence in my book!)

Tone down violence...in a Terminator novel?!

I guess I got a little carried away!

What's your definition of carried away ?

Greg Cox · September 5 2012, 03:03 PM

Relayer1 wrote:

Greg Cox wrote:

WarsTrek1993 wrote:

Tone down violence...in a Terminator novel?!

I guess I got a little carried away!

What's your definition of carried away ?

Mass slaughter, gorily described?

September 4 2012, 03:35 PM	#16
C.E. Evans Vice Admiral Location: Saint Louis (aka Defiance)	Re: Quite a lot of death and destruction..... I dunno. For me, yes, there was definitely an apocalypse during the time of Destiny and some reconstruction blues afterward--but I think for the most part, the past year has been something of a throwback to the TOS era in which the Federation is mired in political, economic, and technological struggles with a serious rival nation or two. But I do think the farther one goes from home, the less safe space becomes. In that sense, our heroes are in the business of trying to tame a wild and dangerous frontier. __________________ "Shout, shout, let it all out..."

September 4 2012, 06:07 PM	#22
Greg Cox Vice Admiral Location: Oxford, PA	Re: Quite a lot of death and destruction..... "Little Green Men" is a classic. __________________ www.gregcox-author.com

September 4 2012, 09:40 PM	#26
Paris Fleet Captain Location: on the Enterprise	Re: Quite a lot of death and destruction..... ^I think New Frontier might fit the bill. Not always super light, but lighter than the mainline books of late ...but you may have already read them. Just sayin'...

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