What do want to see from a new series - Page 5

ElimParra · September 3 2012, 03:54 PM

I'd love to see an alien captain. An Andorian or another race established during TOS days. But set around 25 to 50 years after Voyager returned home.

Hartzilla2007 · September 3 2012, 05:13 PM

BillJ wrote:

Bry_Sinclair wrote:

BillJ wrote:

So was Spock. Death is not a road block to career advancement in the Star Trek universe.

So true. But Spock's body was recovered and regenerated on the Genesis Planet. Data was blown into dust. He is dead and gone, and no weak-assed memory transfer plot twist will change that.

Transferring a program from one computer to another is far more likely to work than what Spock went through.

So if I transfer the contents of my current PC to one say 10 years older everything will work just fine and dandy?

because thats technically what your talking about doing with Data.

Not to mention its immoral as hell to overwrite a person just to save another one.

BillJ · September 3 2012, 05:55 PM

Hartzilla2007 wrote:

So if I transfer the contents of my current PC to one say 10 years older everything will work just fine and dandy?

because thats technically what your talking about doing with Data.

We don't know how primitive B4 was in comparison to Data. What we had was an on the fly analysis of their differences. We honestly don't know what hardware and software upgrades would be capable.

Not to mention its immoral as hell to overwrite a person just to save another one.

Immoral or not, it was already done in the film.

T'Girl · September 3 2012, 09:16 PM

We never saw Data''s body.

No one in the TOS era saw Scotty's body, and his was likely presumed dead too.

But he wasn't.

Overbound · September 4 2012, 05:13 AM

Bry_Sinclair wrote:

Overbound wrote:

Data as Captain.

Data is dead.

Thank you Fleet Captain Obvious.

The truth is we don't know what they planned. But there was talk of doing one more TNG movies so they probably would have brought him back one way or another.

Bry_Sinclair · September 4 2012, 09:34 AM

Overbound wrote:

Bry_Sinclair wrote:

Overbound wrote:

Data as Captain.

Data is dead.

Thank you Fleet Captain Obvious.

Why thank you Ensign

Overbound wrote:

The truth is we don't know what they planned. But there was talk of doing one more TNG movies so they probably would have brought him back one way or another.

That was what B-4 was for. Even though Brent Spiner was worried about looking too old to play Data/Data 2.0 in in further TNG.

It was a cop out, plain and simple. Yes they brought back Spock, but he was one of the three main characters of TOS. TNG has six other main characters to use after Data was killed off.

I always like to think that after NEM, B-4 was taken by Commander Maddox back to Starfleet Science and taken apart, so as to better study and understand the Soong-type Android.

BillJ · September 4 2012, 11:07 AM

Bry_Sinclair wrote:

I always like to think that after NEM, B-4 was taken by Commander Maddox back to Starfleet Science and taken apart, so as to better study and understand the Soong-type Android.

So Starfleet executed the slow android? Beautiful.

Bry_Sinclair · September 4 2012, 11:14 AM

BillJ wrote:

Bry_Sinclair wrote:

I always like to think that after NEM, B-4 was taken by Commander Maddox back to Starfleet Science and taken apart, so as to better study and understand the Soong-type Android.

So Starfleet executed the slow android? Beautiful.

I prefer the term dissassembled

It's been ages since I saw the ep where Data was on trial, but if memory serves, he was granted sentient status and equal rights, not all androids. There would need to be another ruling on B-4.

Mars · September 4 2012, 01:11 PM

Bry_Sinclair wrote:

Overbound wrote:

Bry_Sinclair wrote:

Data is dead.

Thank you Fleet Captain Obvious.

Why thank you Ensign

Overbound wrote:

The truth is we don't know what they planned. But there was talk of doing one more TNG movies so they probably would have brought him back one way or another.

That was what B-4 was for. Even though Brent Spiner was worried about looking too old to play Data/Data 2.0 in in further TNG.

It was a cop out, plain and simple. Yes they brought back Spock, but he was one of the three main characters of TOS. TNG has six other main characters to use after Data was killed off.

I always like to think that after NEM, B-4 was taken by Commander Maddox back to Starfleet Science and taken apart, so as to better study and understand the Soong-type Android.

There is another option, on You Tube, I saw a video of a fight between Superman and the Hulk, and this version of Superman looked a lot like Christopher Reeve, though I know he wasn't around to film it, the animation looked quite realistic.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbizTBYs-rQ

One might do a similar animation with Data.

Bry_Sinclair · September 4 2012, 01:25 PM

Doing a single character as completely CGI seems very expensive for a live-action TV series, plus there would be a lot of extra work in order to make them feel like they fit in without being too gimmicky. I do think that if they want to go the CGI character root, then they should just make an animated series. But that's just my preference.

Mars · September 4 2012, 01:45 PM

Not really that hard, you'd have Brent Spiner play his usual role, but you'd paint a "CGI Data" on top of him in final production. The actors and actresses would be responding to somebody who was actually there, and it helps that Data is supposed to be an Android and thus is not supposed to look quite human, that's why the white pasty makeup. If the CGI Data looks plastic, well that's to be expected, he's supposed to be an android. Note that the Robots in I Robot were entirely CGI.

Sindatur · September 4 2012, 07:58 PM

If you're gonna go to the expense of doing a CGI character, let it be someone truly alien looking, that actually needs CGI, such at the Xindi Insectoids, or Species 8472, maybe even an alien that's not Bi-Pedal

Regarding Time Frame, I think if it's set 20+ years after Voyager returns home, you've got "Crazy Technology" issues again, considering all the Borg enhancements and other advanced Tech Voyager brought home with them.

Nacluv · September 5 2012, 02:15 AM

More early Vulcan history.

Bry_Sinclair · September 5 2012, 06:34 AM

I love Vulcans, even though I know they could never love me back

A series set on an all-Vulcan ship, they could call it: "Star Trek: IDIC"

Mars · September 5 2012, 07:31 PM

Bry_Sinclair wrote:

I love Vulcans, even though I know they could never love me back

A series set on an all-Vulcan ship, they could call it: "Star Trek: IDIC"

A ship full of poker faces and stilted dialog, wonderful!

September 3 2012, 03:54 PM	#61
ElimParra Fleet Admiral Location: Newcastle, Australia	Re: What do want to see from a new series I'd love to see an alien captain. An Andorian or another race established during TOS days. But set around 25 to 50 years after Voyager returned home.

September 3 2012, 09:16 PM	#64
T'Girl Vice Admiral	Re: What do want to see from a new series We never saw Data''s body. No one in the TOS era saw Scotty's body, and his was likely presumed dead too. But he wasn't.

September 4 2012, 01:25 PM	#70
Bry_Sinclair Commodore Location: Along the border of Talarian space	Re: What do want to see from a new series Doing a single character as completely CGI seems very expensive for a live-action TV series, plus there would be a lot of extra work in order to make them feel like they fit in without being too gimmicky. I do think that if they want to go the CGI character root, then they should just make an animated series. But that's just my preference. __________________ Avatar: Captain Hilgrat Ja-Inrosh (deceased), Commanding Officer, U.S.S. Silverfin NCC-4470, Border Service Third Cutter Squadron Manip by: FltCpt. Bossco (STPMA)

September 4 2012, 01:45 PM	#71
Mars Captain	Re: What do want to see from a new series Not really that hard, you'd have Brent Spiner play his usual role, but you'd paint a "CGI Data" on top of him in final production. The actors and actresses would be responding to somebody who was actually there, and it helps that Data is supposed to be an Android and thus is not supposed to look quite human, that's why the white pasty makeup. If the CGI Data looks plastic, well that's to be expected, he's supposed to be an android. Note that the Robots in I Robot were entirely CGI.

September 4 2012, 07:58 PM	#72
Sindatur Rear Admiral Location: Sacramento, CA	Re: What do want to see from a new series If you're gonna go to the expense of doing a CGI character, let it be someone truly alien looking, that actually needs CGI, such at the Xindi Insectoids, or Species 8472, maybe even an alien that's not Bi-Pedal Regarding Time Frame, I think if it's set 20+ years after Voyager returns home, you've got "Crazy Technology" issues again, considering all the Borg enhancements and other advanced Tech Voyager brought home with them. __________________ One Day I hope to be the Man my Cat thinks I am Where are we going? And why are we in this Handbasket?

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September 5 2012, 02:15 AM	#73
Nacluv Lieutenant Commander	Re: What do want to see from a new series More early Vulcan history.

September 5 2012, 06:34 AM	#74
Bry_Sinclair Commodore Location: Along the border of Talarian space	Re: What do want to see from a new series I love Vulcans, even though I know they could never love me back A series set on an all-Vulcan ship, they could call it: "Star Trek: IDIC" __________________ Avatar: Captain Hilgrat Ja-Inrosh (deceased), Commanding Officer, U.S.S. Silverfin NCC-4470, Border Service Third Cutter Squadron Manip by: FltCpt. Bossco (STPMA)