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Old August 29 2012, 03:19 AM   #16
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Re: Who is the most famous character?

Archer is someone you'd have to memorize facts about for history.

Kirk is someone you have posters of on your bedroom wall.
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Old August 29 2012, 11:50 AM   #17
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Re: Who is the most famous character?

Probably Archer and Picard.

Archer for being "the first" for Humans and "Founder of the Federation" for every Federation citizen.

Picard for being the archetype, the epitome of Starfleet's values.
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Old August 29 2012, 12:01 PM   #18
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Re: Who is the most famous character?

Kirk is the myth that we know lives on. It's Kirk, KIRK damnit.
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Old August 30 2012, 12:32 AM   #19
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Never cared much for Archers character. Didnt appear to be Captain material.
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Old August 30 2012, 12:42 AM   #20
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Re: Who is the most famous character?

Sisko, his story must be pretty mythical? The captain who started and helped win a galactic war before becoming a higher being.
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Old August 30 2012, 08:44 AM   #21
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Kirk is the myth that we know lives on. It's Kirk, KIRK damnit.

Ditto.
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Old August 30 2012, 07:24 PM   #22
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Sisko, his story must be pretty mythical? The captain who started and helped win a galactic war before becoming a higher being.
I believe the Dominion War officially started when the Cardassians threw in their lot with the Dominion and gave them a foothold in the Alpha Quadrant.
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Old August 30 2012, 10:50 PM   #23
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Kirk is someone you have posters of on your bedroom wall.
So Kirk is the Rick Astley of space exploration?
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Old August 31 2012, 02:00 AM   #24
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Kirk is someone you have posters of on your bedroom wall.
So Kirk is the Rick Astley of space exploration?
You've been Kirkrolled?
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Old August 31 2012, 04:29 AM   #25
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Re: Who is the most famous character?

Nerys Myk wrote: View Post
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Kirk is someone you have posters of on your bedroom wall.
So Kirk is the Rick Astley of space exploration?
You've been Kirkrolled?

That did occur to me, but when I was growing up my sister actually had a poster of Rick on her wall. I am not shitting you.
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Old August 31 2012, 10:59 AM   #26
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Re: Who is the most famous character?

Two hundred years later would Picard, Sisko and Janeway be remember at all? Or in their case, would they be obscure footnotes in history (as opposed to "famous"). Sisko would be famous to the Bajorian people, but the Federation seems to fight a lot of wars, the Dominion War would be better remembered with Admirals, not some Captain so many years later. Captain Sisko had a active few years, but not like the few decades of someone like Captain Kirk.

Janeway is the girl who got kidnapped and had to walk home.

Picard's historical position is firmer than Sisko and Janeway. But the events of the movies might taint his memory, he did denied the people of the Federation a important medical advance.

If in the early 20th century Picard had denied the Human species access to penicillin, would he be remember for anything else today?

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Old September 4 2012, 03:45 AM   #27
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Re: Who is the most famous character?

From the 26th Century...

Archer, well without him there would be no Federation.

Picard, essentially your typical perfect Captain. By then though there would have been a few more Enterprises and captains. They'd probably be a general study of Flagship History altogether.

Sisko, practically won the Dominion War single-handed. So studying the Dominion War would have a huge chapter on him.

Janeway, would likely be the focus of the first chapter on the Delta Quadrant. Of course by then there'll be multiple galaxies to study.

So, Archer would be the most famous I'd say.
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Old September 4 2012, 04:45 AM   #28
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Re: Who is the most famous character?

NrobbieC you left someone out.
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Old September 4 2012, 07:14 AM   #29
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Archer, well without him there would be no Federation.
That might be taking things too far. Without Archer, Starfleet would have planted someone else in the centerseat. The series of events that transpired leading to the Romulan War and the later Federation would have still happened, even without Archer's existence.

The crew of the Enterprise likely would have been identical, minus Archer, and plus (imho) Hernandez.

Looking at the series, Hernandez would have been the obvious second choice for the Enterprise's command. With another Captain chosen for the Columbia.

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Old September 4 2012, 07:18 AM   #30
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If Hernandez had been captain instead of Archer.. that would have been incredibly wonderful. But maybe not worked well with the series plan to show how stupid humans were in the beginning.

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