Crossover with other franchises?

[Christopher]

Or Star Trek/X-Men, because there have definitely been references to Trek as fiction within X-Men and other Marvel comics.

[Allyn Gibson]

Lonemagpie wrote:

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Hm, the Hirogen *are* the Predators to a degree that I fear would make an actual Predator appearance kind of superfluous...

At the time I wrote the outline, Voyager wasn't even a glint in Michael Piller's eye.

It was shortly after Batman/Predator, and I thought about cool possibilities that Dark Horse could run with. TNG/Predator was one. Blade Runner/Predator. I even wrote an outline for a Predator technothriller.

[Mars]

Christopher wrote:

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TNG and Survivor would never work, since the latter is about pitting people against each other and encouraging their most venal, selfish natures, but Starfleet officers would understand that the real key to survival is cooperation.

As for Voyager/The Amazing Race, didn't they already do that in "Drive?"

Survivor is a reality program, and Star Trek is fiction, but I suppose there is a way to combine the two.

1) create a mock up of a starship, and put some real nonactors in star fleet uniforms and have them roleplay starfleet officers having them make various decisions on a scenario given to them by a GM, basically its roleplaying modified by dice rolling perhaps to determine the degree of success, and through this roleplaying a story is created, then the contestants then act through the scenaro they previously created with the GM in the role playing session, and well see what becomes of it. Each episode will feature different contestants, and sometimes the mission is successful and sometimes not, the audience will be left wondering.

[Mars]

How about the Starship Enterprise rescues a crystalline spaceship, that is on a slower than light trajectory towards Earth, its path indicates an origin in the system of a supernova remnant and an expanding cloud of gas and dust. Inside is a humanoid in suspended animation, a blonde teenage girl that appears human, but tricorder readings indicate otherwise.

[lurok]

Lonemagpie wrote:

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Hm, the Hirogen *are* the Predators to a degree that I fear would make an actual Predator appearance kind of superfluous...

VOY Flesh & Blood shamelessly rips off Predator - Silvestri's score, Fed holograms attacking from underwater. Pah.

[Lonemagpie]

Allyn Gibson wrote:

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At the time I wrote the outline, Voyager wasn't even a glint in Michael Piller's eye.

It was shortly after Batman/Predator, and I thought about cool possibilities that Dark Horse could run with. TNG/Predator was one. Blade Runner/Predator. I even wrote an outline for a Predator technothriller.

A Predator/Clancy-type technothriller would be a natural follow-on from the first two movies, really - just have it be about the department that Gary Busey's character works for...

Trek would definitely be more suited to an Aliens visit...

[Christopher]

lurok wrote:

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VOY Flesh & Blood shamelessly rips off Predator - Silvestri's score, Fed holograms attacking from underwater. Pah.

It's called an homage.

[Mars]

How about combining Jurassic Park with Star Trek?

[Christopher]

Mars wrote:

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How about combining Jurassic Park with Star Trek?

Kinda been done...

[lurok]

Christopher wrote:

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It's called an homage.

That's one word for it, I guess.

[Christopher]

Well, come on, really. If you emulate something from a widely known movie, then obviously you're not going to get away with claiming you originated it. So it's pretty silly to accuse the people involved of attempting plagiarism or trying to deceive the audience. Obviously they expected and intended the reference to be recognized. And that is why "homage" is the right word for it and "ripoff" is an illegitimate, nonsensical, and gratuitously insulting word for it.

[Turbo]

As I recall, the second half of "Macrocosm" was basically one big homage to Alien. And that was one of Voyager's better episodes.

[Christopher]

^Wow, I hated "Macrocosm." Not only was the science utter nonsense, but I didn't like how Janeway was written. It felt to me as though Brannon Braga's idea of writing a strong woman was to write her as Rambo.

[Lonemagpie]

I thought Janeway was hot in it - works for me

[Mars]

For an example of a crossover, here is my contribution http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=187085
it is fairly short, but it gets to the point.