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Old September 3 2012, 04:10 AM   #391
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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 5

About time, Hank. What a way to end the first half of S5 and set up the second half of the season which will be the downfall of Walter White/Heisenberg.
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Old September 3 2012, 04:11 AM   #392
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When I saw the Walt Whitman book again at the beginning I figured that might be the key to Walt's undoing but I didn't think it'd happen in this episode until I saw the fly in his backyard. Then I knew.

Damn. It's gonna be a long wait.
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Old September 3 2012, 04:37 AM   #393
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Certainly very ironic that he was actually going to walk away. I feel like this says that even though they never revealed the outcome of that MRI, he's still in remission, & reflecting on how he came to all this, when he looked at the paper towel dispenser

It would seem there's still some old Walt left in there, however short lived it might be, given the impending state of affairs. None of them will walk away so easily as this episode toys with

An episode like this just makes me think how awful this whole thing will get, for all of them. 54 episodes to build it all up. 8 to tear it all down. That's impressive

Proving once again that the biggest revelations of our lives happen on the shitter
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Old September 3 2012, 05:10 AM   #394
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DarthPipes! You joined the club. Outstanding. I became a recent convert myself about a month ago. It's good stuff, isn't it? I marathoned it myself once I got into it. I couldn't stop. Very addictive.

To me, "balancing the scales" would be Walt beating the cancer for good. Mr. White, the treatment worked! You're part of the tiny minority who've gone into complete remission. What a lucky, lucky man you are....sorry to hear about your family being dead, and BTW, you're going to prison. What luck! You can serve your full 30 year sentence now. Last shot: Walter getting his face shoved into the floor by another inmate. He realizes he'll be abused for the rest of his (unfortunately long) life. Guess you should have taken the 5 mil and been content, eh?
Great stuff, Dorian!

Good episode tonight although not as good as the last three episodes leading up to it. I thought it was a little slow-moving (the killing of the prisoners aside) and that the Walt/Lydia conversation dragged on too long. But the last couple of minutes were great. The Walt and Jesse friendship continues to be the most interesting and complex on television. I'm not surprised Jesse armed himself...I thought Walt was going to try to give him the ricin. That ricin is bound to be used at some point.

I'm glad Hank finally discovered the truth. Keeping that book around was more of Walt's hubris. I could definitely see him doing that. He never would have expected in a million years that Hank would pick it up. Hank vs Walt should be fascinating next season and Hank may find it difficult to investigate since Walt is out. Although realistically, the truth about Walt will probably end Hank's career.
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Old September 3 2012, 05:41 AM   #395
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I think the cancer's back. That's why he wanted his kids back and why he tried to do right by Jesse and give him his money. I was wondering if he'd left one of Mike's body parts in the bag--but it was three months later. It would have been mouldy and smelly by then so I guess not. However, that's how depraved Walter's been, enough to make me wonder. But he wanted to do right by Jesse, so that's what made me think the cancer's back. On some deep, psychotic level, Walt cares about Jesse just a little bit. Obviously Jesse thought Walt was going to try something; that's why he was armed. Perhaps Walt's affections aren't returned any longer. Jesse's afraid of him, no doubt.

Now that Hank's on to Walt--that's what will pull Jesse back in. Jesse's already on the radar because of the previous incident with Hank. Who here thinks Hank will start leaning on him? I do, and then the question of how far will Walt go for self preservation comes into play again. That's a plausible way to keep Jesse in Walt's orbit even though the meth business is done. Kudos to you, Mr. Gilligan, for roping Jesse back in but creating believable conflict between him and Walter again because of Mike's death and the possibility that Jesse could sell Walt out. Jesse may be angry enough to do it. That is some sick chemistry between Paul and Cranston, but it's brilliant. Watching paint dry is better than watching Walter make meth with Todd. At the end of the day, Paul and Cranston rock together whether Jesse and Walter are trying to kill each other or not.

I guess Marie's pregnant. Prenatal vitamins needed and thank the maker VG didn't make Hank clueless forever. VG is, however, a sick f'ing man. Nine prison murders set to Nat King Cole???
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Old September 3 2012, 05:54 AM   #396
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I think the lack of chemistry between Walter and Todd works though. It shows what he's missing with Jesse.
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Old September 3 2012, 06:00 AM   #397
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True, that. To think that Vince Gilligan had planned to kill him off in episode 9 of season 1--think how different Breaking Bad would have been without Paul. I can't imagine Walter adrift in the crime world all by himself. Fly is one of my favorite episodes of the entire series. We wouldn't have gotten that.
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Old September 3 2012, 06:07 AM   #398
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...but I didn't think it'd happen in this episode until I saw the fly in his backyard. Then I knew.
Huh. How was that the tip-off?

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Damn. It's gonna be a long wait.
True dat.
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Old September 3 2012, 06:14 AM   #399
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So I'm dumb and confused. When Jesse said that Saul told him what did, was he speaking of Mike or the 9 guys?
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Old September 3 2012, 06:18 AM   #400
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Exhaustion caught up with me. What happened between Walter going into Jesse's house and the family get-together at the pool?
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Old September 3 2012, 06:24 AM   #401
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Just the Walt/Jesse conversation. Walt leaving the bag of money with Jesse's share outside his door. The reveal that Jesse had a gun because he's afraid of Walt--then the scene of Walt telling Skyler he's out, or was that before the conversation with Jesse? I'm tired. I forget.
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Old September 3 2012, 06:30 AM   #402
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For a minute there I thought Vince was going to give us a Mad Men season ender where all the real significant stuff happens in the penultimate episode rather than the final one of the season.

But things seemed to be going along just too well. The pile of eff you money in storage, Walt finally doing right by Jessie, Walt deciding to get out, the idyllic scene around the pool, Walt and Skylar making goo goo eyes. Something had to happen.

Hank; welcome to the pahty pal!

The use of Nat King Cole's light hearted "Pick Yourself Up" over the brutal killing scenes reminded me of the use of Johnny Maths' "Wonderful Wonderful" during the just as brutal killing scene in the X-Files episode, "Home". And speaking of this episode's music, it's hard to believe it took 4 seasons to get Crystal Blue Persuasion -- sounded nice regardless.

I'm betting the situation next season unfolds with Walt on the run from his Euro partners, who aren't ready to stop making millions, along with the Hank and the DEA.
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Old September 3 2012, 06:41 AM   #403
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Oh, that's right. The European Madrigal connections are bound to be ticked off when the gravy train just stops because Walter suddenly grew a conscience. Consequences abound. Drug dealers are a violent lot.

A brilliant point that someone on another board brought up to support the cancer diagnosis[[lung cancer often metastisizes to the brain. The poster's aunt had suffered the same fate and he said that a peculiar habit she developed was often staring into space and then fixating on some subject until someone literally had to snap her out of it.

Remember? Walter in the hotel room with Todd's connections? Walt was focused on the wall painting until one of the hoods snapped his fingers at him to get his attention. .
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Old September 3 2012, 07:57 AM   #404
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Just the Walt/Jesse conversation. Walt leaving the bag of money with Jesse's share outside his door. The reveal that Jesse had a gun because he's afraid of Walt--then the scene of Walt telling Skyler he's out, or was that before the conversation with Jesse? I'm tired. I forget.
Just? I wish I'd seen it. Is it Walt trying to regrow a conscience, or is it Walt trying to bring Jesse back in? (A replacement so he will be allowed to retire. Why else announce that Jesse was as good a cook as he?)
Is Jesse's share a fair shake or Walt paying his own legacy cost a la Mike?
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Old September 3 2012, 11:40 AM   #405
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Back in season 2 or 3 when some Doctor said that Walt's Tumour had unexplainably shrunk, It was pretty obvious that Vince was suggesting that in his universe that meth cured cancer.

It's been three months.

Has he really given the business to Todd and Lydia?

He couldn't leave unless Todd could cook.

Good lord.

Todd and Lydia are probably doing it.

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