No News, No Nothing!! - Page 10

Mach5 · September 2 2012, 04:57 PM

Abrams should really learn a thing or two from Peter Jackson. Those video blogs of his are huge in social media, and have been steadily building up hype since they first appeared.

Meanwhile, J.J.'s secretive bullshit managed to almost completely erase Star Trek from the public mind.

For fuck sake, ST XII is less than nine months away, and there's virtually NO Internet buzz whatsoever. Not a single piece of promotional material, let alone a teaser. I can't believe Paramount is letting him do this.

This shit could actually end up hurting the movie.

archeryguy1701 · September 2 2012, 05:05 PM

I'll repeat what I said above- JJ's "secretive bullshit" really screwed up the previous movie, and this was at a time where Star Trek was already virtually non-existant in the public eye.

Let's be honest here- no one's really concerned about about the movie being seriously hurt... we've all just got our knickers in a twist because we don't have anything to talk about.

Deckerd · September 2 2012, 05:25 PM

It won't make a blind bit of difference to the popularity of the movie because the vast majority of the people who will go to see it will only be interested in what's showing now.

Methos · September 2 2012, 05:54 PM

to be honest, i'm kinda glad there isn't continual updates, blogs, interviews, videos with the cast / production crew and everything...

says to me they're concentrating on actually making the movie, and not building up senseless hype around it... and i know i for one, would much rather they concentrate on making a kick ass movie, rather than breaking concentration and talking to the fans every week or so

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Mach5 · September 2 2012, 06:29 PM

Make no mistake people, it's in our interest too that this movie to makes money.

Ovation · September 3 2012, 12:12 AM

Especially since the last one, because of all the secrecy, tanked at the box office.

M'Sharak · September 3 2012, 12:59 AM

Mach5 wrote:

For fuck sake, ST XII is less than nine months away, and there's virtually NO Internet buzz whatsoever. Not a single piece of promotional material, let alone a teaser. I can't believe Paramount is letting him do this.

This shit could actually end up hurting the movie.

Think back. How much buzz do you remember there being prior to the 2008 SDCC poster sets? There wasn't much: scattered tidbits, with large stretches of dead quiet in between.

It wasn't until the EW article in mid-October and the first theatrical trailer in November (roughly six months before release) that things really started to warm up last time, promo- and buzz-wise.

Greg Cox · September 3 2012, 01:38 AM

Mach5 wrote:

For fuck sake, ST XII is less than nine months away, .

You mean it's a whole nine months away.

The last movie was the most successful Trek project in ages. I suspect they know what they're doing.

teacake · September 3 2012, 01:49 AM

Some movies are so over hyped that I'm sick of them before they come out. Obviously this wouldn't be the case with ST:XII for me but I do think it's a danger of too much publicity machining.

Transwarp Drive · September 3 2012, 06:53 AM

teacake wrote:

Some movies are so over hyped that I'm sick of them before they come out. Obviously this wouldn't be the case with ST:XII for me but I do think it's a danger of too much publicity machining.

It's not so much the lack of publicity, if this was 2 years after the original movie, momentum alone wound carry it forward.

But this is 4 years later, there's no TV show (probably no bad thing), there's no media profile and no buzz.

This could hurt the box office.

EyalM · September 3 2012, 07:15 AM

Buzz doesn't need months to build, although it can. There is nothing, in theory, that prevents a movie from having a month long marketing campigen and still be a success.

StarTrek1701 · September 3 2012, 07:31 AM

Ovation wrote:

Especially since the last one, because of all the secrecy, tanked at the box office.

It certainly didn't tank, however:

Star Trek - Worldwide: $385,680,446

The Avengers - Worldwide: $1,501,845,000.

Avengers made double domestic than Star Trek did worldwide. Logically speaking, it could be because Marvel started promoting Avengers from 2010 onwards. Hell, Iron Man 2 was basically one big promo for it. So yes, the extreme amount of secrecy is truly hurting this movie. At least thats what I think.

DonIago · September 3 2012, 08:26 AM

I can't tell whether you're joking or not, but I have a hard time believing that anyone would really expect a Star Trek movie of any caliber to pull in as much as Avengers.

Devon · September 3 2012, 09:10 AM

StarTrek1701 wrote:

Ovation wrote:

Especially since the last one, because of all the secrecy, tanked at the box office.

It certainly didn't tank, however:

Star Trek - Worldwide: $385,680,446

The Avengers - Worldwide: $1,501,845,000.

Avengers made double domestic than Star Trek did worldwide. Logically speaking, it could be because Marvel started promoting Avengers from 2010 onwards. Hell, Iron Man 2 was basically one big promo for it. So yes, the extreme amount of secrecy is truly hurting this movie. At least thats what I think.

"The Avengers" is also the combination of a few successful franchises in which two characters were featured and mega successful films previously. It's not fair to make that comparison since the circumstances as to why "The Avengers" had a box office advantage is a little more unique.

Beyerstein · September 3 2012, 10:41 AM

M'Sharak wrote:

Mach5 wrote:

For fuck sake, ST XII is less than nine months away, and there's virtually NO Internet buzz whatsoever. Not a single piece of promotional material, let alone a teaser. I can't believe Paramount is letting him do this.

This shit could actually end up hurting the movie.

Think back. How much buzz do you remember there being prior to the 2008 SDCC poster sets? There wasn't much: scattered tidbits, with large stretches of dead quiet in between.

It wasn't until the EW article in mid-October and the first theatrical trailer in November (roughly six months before release) that things really started to warm up last time, promo- and buzz-wise.

I think there was a lot more buzz. There was also that enterprise construction trailer like a year and half before the movie ended up coming out in.

September 2 2012, 04:57 PM	#136
Mach5 Rear Admiral Location: 里耶卡	Re: No News, No Nothing!! Abrams should really learn a thing or two from Peter Jackson. Those video blogs of his are huge in social media, and have been steadily building up hype since they first appeared. Meanwhile, J.J.'s secretive bullshit managed to almost completely erase Star Trek from the public mind. For fuck sake, ST XII is less than nine months away, and there's virtually NO Internet buzz whatsoever. Not a single piece of promotional material, let alone a teaser. I can't believe Paramount is letting him do this. This shit could actually end up hurting the movie. __________________ No religious or family tradition can stand in the way of change.

September 2 2012, 05:05 PM	#137
archeryguy1701 Rear Admiral Location: Cheyenne, WY	Re: No News, No Nothing!! I'll repeat what I said above- JJ's "secretive bullshit" really screwed up the previous movie, and this was at a time where Star Trek was already virtually non-existant in the public eye. Let's be honest here- no one's really concerned about about the movie being seriously hurt... we've all just got our knickers in a twist because we don't have anything to talk about. __________________ "If it weren't for stupid, difficult races, there'd simply be no point to living." Sometimes you just gotta roll the hard six- Bill Adama

September 2 2012, 05:25 PM	#138
Deckerd Fleet Arse Location: in the Frozen Wastes	Re: No News, No Nothing!! It won't make a blind bit of difference to the popularity of the movie because the vast majority of the people who will go to see it will only be interested in what's showing now. __________________ They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance.

September 2 2012, 05:54 PM	#139
Methos First Officer: USS Aventine Location: Hiding under Gaila's bed...	Re: No News, No Nothing!! to be honest, i'm kinda glad there isn't continual updates, blogs, interviews, videos with the cast / production crew and everything... says to me they're concentrating on actually making the movie, and not building up senseless hype around it... and i know i for one, would much rather they concentrate on making a kick ass movie, rather than breaking concentration and talking to the fans every week or so M __________________ In Russia, a 122 year old man has passed away, he credited his long life to abtaining from alcohol, tobacco and women. His last words were "I've made a huge mistake."

September 2 2012, 06:29 PM	#140
Mach5 Rear Admiral Location: 里耶卡	Re: No News, No Nothing!! Make no mistake people, it's in our interest too that this movie to makes money. __________________ No religious or family tradition can stand in the way of change.

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September 3 2012, 12:12 AM	#141
Ovation Vice Admiral Location: La Belle Province or The Green Mountain State (depends on the day of the week)	Re: No News, No Nothing!! Especially since the last one, because of all the secrecy, tanked at the box office.

September 3 2012, 01:49 AM	#144
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: No News, No Nothing!! Some movies are so over hyped that I'm sick of them before they come out. Obviously this wouldn't be the case with ST:XII for me but I do think it's a danger of too much publicity machining. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

September 3 2012, 07:15 AM	#146
EyalM Captain Location: Haifa	Re: No News, No Nothing!! Buzz doesn't need months to build, although it can. There is nothing, in theory, that prevents a movie from having a month long marketing campigen and still be a success. __________________ Well, he’s kind of had it in for me ever since I accidentally ran over his dog. Actually, replace ’accidentally’ with ’repeatedly’ and replace ’dog’ with ’son.’

September 3 2012, 08:26 AM	#148
DonIago Rear Admiral Location: Burlington, VT, USA	Re: No News, No Nothing!! I can't tell whether you're joking or not, but I have a hard time believing that anyone would really expect a Star Trek movie of any caliber to pull in as much as Avengers. __________________ --DonIago It was the best of Trek, it was the worst of Trek... "If I lean over, I leave myself open to wedgies, wet willies, or even the dreaded Rear Admiral!"