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Old September 2 2012, 04:57 PM   #136
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Abrams should really learn a thing or two from Peter Jackson. Those video blogs of his are huge in social media, and have been steadily building up hype since they first appeared.

Meanwhile, J.J.'s secretive bullshit managed to almost completely erase Star Trek from the public mind.

For fuck sake, ST XII is less than nine months away, and there's virtually NO Internet buzz whatsoever. Not a single piece of promotional material, let alone a teaser. I can't believe Paramount is letting him do this.

This shit could actually end up hurting the movie.
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Old September 2 2012, 05:05 PM   #137
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Re: No News, No Nothing!!

I'll repeat what I said above- JJ's "secretive bullshit" really screwed up the previous movie, and this was at a time where Star Trek was already virtually non-existant in the public eye.

Let's be honest here- no one's really concerned about about the movie being seriously hurt... we've all just got our knickers in a twist because we don't have anything to talk about.
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Old September 2 2012, 05:25 PM   #138
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It won't make a blind bit of difference to the popularity of the movie because the vast majority of the people who will go to see it will only be interested in what's showing now.
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Old September 2 2012, 05:54 PM   #139
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Re: No News, No Nothing!!

to be honest, i'm kinda glad there isn't continual updates, blogs, interviews, videos with the cast / production crew and everything...

says to me they're concentrating on actually making the movie, and not building up senseless hype around it... and i know i for one, would much rather they concentrate on making a kick ass movie, rather than breaking concentration and talking to the fans every week or so

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Old September 2 2012, 06:29 PM   #140
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Make no mistake people, it's in our interest too that this movie to makes money.
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Old September 3 2012, 12:12 AM   #141
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Especially since the last one, because of all the secrecy, tanked at the box office.
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Old September 3 2012, 12:59 AM   #142
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Mach5 wrote: View Post

For fuck sake, ST XII is less than nine months away, and there's virtually NO Internet buzz whatsoever. Not a single piece of promotional material, let alone a teaser. I can't believe Paramount is letting him do this.

This shit could actually end up hurting the movie.
Think back. How much buzz do you remember there being prior to the 2008 SDCC poster sets? There wasn't much: scattered tidbits, with large stretches of dead quiet in between.

It wasn't until the EW article in mid-October and the first theatrical trailer in November (roughly six months before release) that things really started to warm up last time, promo- and buzz-wise.
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Old September 3 2012, 01:38 AM   #143
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For fuck sake, ST XII is less than nine months away, .
You mean it's a whole nine months away.

The last movie was the most successful Trek project in ages. I suspect they know what they're doing.
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Old September 3 2012, 01:49 AM   #144
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Some movies are so over hyped that I'm sick of them before they come out. Obviously this wouldn't be the case with ST:XII for me but I do think it's a danger of too much publicity machining.
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Old September 3 2012, 06:53 AM   #145
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Some movies are so over hyped that I'm sick of them before they come out. Obviously this wouldn't be the case with ST:XII for me but I do think it's a danger of too much publicity machining.
It's not so much the lack of publicity, if this was 2 years after the original movie, momentum alone wound carry it forward.

But this is 4 years later, there's no TV show (probably no bad thing), there's no media profile and no buzz.

This could hurt the box office.
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Old September 3 2012, 07:15 AM   #146
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Buzz doesn't need months to build, although it can. There is nothing, in theory, that prevents a movie from having a month long marketing campigen and still be a success.
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Old September 3 2012, 07:31 AM   #147
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Especially since the last one, because of all the secrecy, tanked at the box office.
It certainly didn't tank, however:

Star Trek - Worldwide: $385,680,446

The Avengers - Worldwide: $1,501,845,000.

Avengers made double domestic than Star Trek did worldwide. Logically speaking, it could be because Marvel started promoting Avengers from 2010 onwards. Hell, Iron Man 2 was basically one big promo for it. So yes, the extreme amount of secrecy is truly hurting this movie. At least thats what I think.
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Old September 3 2012, 08:26 AM   #148
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I can't tell whether you're joking or not, but I have a hard time believing that anyone would really expect a Star Trek movie of any caliber to pull in as much as Avengers.
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Old September 3 2012, 09:10 AM   #149
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Especially since the last one, because of all the secrecy, tanked at the box office.
It certainly didn't tank, however:

Star Trek - Worldwide: $385,680,446

The Avengers - Worldwide: $1,501,845,000.

Avengers made double domestic than Star Trek did worldwide. Logically speaking, it could be because Marvel started promoting Avengers from 2010 onwards. Hell, Iron Man 2 was basically one big promo for it. So yes, the extreme amount of secrecy is truly hurting this movie. At least thats what I think.
"The Avengers" is also the combination of a few successful franchises in which two characters were featured and mega successful films previously. It's not fair to make that comparison since the circumstances as to why "The Avengers" had a box office advantage is a little more unique.
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Old September 3 2012, 10:41 AM   #150
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For fuck sake, ST XII is less than nine months away, and there's virtually NO Internet buzz whatsoever. Not a single piece of promotional material, let alone a teaser. I can't believe Paramount is letting him do this.

This shit could actually end up hurting the movie.
Think back. How much buzz do you remember there being prior to the 2008 SDCC poster sets? There wasn't much: scattered tidbits, with large stretches of dead quiet in between.

It wasn't until the EW article in mid-October and the first theatrical trailer in November (roughly six months before release) that things really started to warm up last time, promo- and buzz-wise.
I think there was a lot more buzz. There was also that enterprise construction trailer like a year and half before the movie ended up coming out in.
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