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View Poll Results: How do you grade The Avengers?
A+ 149 46.42%
A 102 31.78%
A- 30 9.35%
B+ 17 5.30%
B 11 3.43%
B- 5 1.56%
C+ 0 0%
C 4 1.25%
C- 1 0.31%
D+ 1 0.31%
D 0 0%
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Old September 1 2012, 10:12 PM   #1501
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Nick Fury deleted scene






For those that can't see the deleted scene involving Captain America

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Old September 1 2012, 10:53 PM   #1502
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Re: AVENGERS: Grade, Reviews, Discuss, DVD & Sequel **SPOILERS**

That is a great scene with Steve Rogers, but I almost feel like it works better on its own. If it had been in the Avengers, it may have interrupted the pacing of the movie.
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Old September 1 2012, 11:15 PM   #1503
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I watched the Cap scene and can see why it was cut. It was a good scene, but it doesn't really add a lot to the overall team vs. Loki and the Chitauri story, and would probably fit better in a Cap solo movie.
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Old September 1 2012, 11:24 PM   #1504
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The same could be said for a lot of the Black Widow stuff.
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Old September 1 2012, 11:43 PM   #1505
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I would've had that as the post-credits Captain America scene.
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Old September 1 2012, 11:59 PM   #1506
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I watched the Cap scene and can see why it was cut. It was a good scene, but it doesn't really add a lot to the overall team vs. Loki and the Chitauri story, and would probably fit better in a Cap solo movie.
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The same could be said for a lot of the Black Widow stuff.
Window isn't getting her own movie any time soon, unlike Captain America, so most of her development will be in Avengers.
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Old September 2 2012, 12:14 AM   #1507
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And yet Captain America becomes the leader of the team. Events which further his story within the context of these events further the story of the team. The same is true for all of the characters in the ensemble, Iron Man included.

Really, the most neglected character, the weakest link as it were, is Hawkeye. Do any of the deleted scenes shed light on his story?
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Old September 2 2012, 03:56 AM   #1508
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I watched the Cap scene and can see why it was cut. It was a good scene, but it doesn't really add a lot to the overall team vs. Loki and the Chitauri story...
The same could be said of the Tony/Pepper scenes.
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Old September 2 2012, 04:01 AM   #1509
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I watched the Cap scene and can see why it was cut. It was a good scene, but it doesn't really add a lot to the overall team vs. Loki and the Chitauri story...
The same could be said of the Tony/Pepper scenes.
No, that relationship was important to the climax of the movie. Without thast scene, Tony would just be a loner with nothing to lose except his life when he went to dispatch the nuke.
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Old September 2 2012, 04:09 AM   #1510
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In a back-handed, way, I think we are agreeing with each other. We are both arguing that the scenes in question add to the development of the character and their growth. One deleted, one kept.

The Tony/Pepper scenes, as you say, add to Tony's arc at the end of the movie. I am saying the same Steve's scenes. Although, there is certainly more mass-audience interest in Tony/Pepper than in Steve/Waitress.
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Old September 2 2012, 04:27 AM   #1511
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IMO, the Captain America scenes should have been kept. It would have added more depth to his character.
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Old September 2 2012, 04:33 AM   #1512
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It's three minutes, which is a touch long. I think it was worth keeping, but it's certainly on the line.
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Old September 2 2012, 10:49 AM   #1513
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The part just at the diner, which is the part I really want to keep, is considerably less than three minutes. (Video pulled so I can't run though it again.) I think everything else in the three minute clip could have been tightened up.
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Old September 2 2012, 11:33 AM   #1514
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It's three minutes, which is a touch long. I think it was worth keeping, but it's certainly on the line.
Three minutes to a movie that was already over 2 hours long, I don't think it would have that much of an impact.
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Old September 2 2012, 02:02 PM   #1515
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Except that the rule of film editing is to cut everything. This scene is nice, but it doesn't advance the story, so I see why it was cut.
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