The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

[Borgminister]

Beagleman wrote:

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Well, a) doesn't mean he's an alcoholic, a lot of people do stupid shit like that, though most of them tend to be a bit younger when they do, and b) it's not like alcoholics (or addicts of any kind) have much of a say in the matter.

Except to go to AA.

[DarthTom]

Silvercrest wrote:

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Scott Walker?

Opps, Wilson. GA state law requires anyone convicted of a DUI to spend a minimum of 72 hours in jail. So Herschel is going to the real jail for at least 3 days dependent on how much time he spend in the local jail.

[Beagleman]

Borgminister wrote:

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Except to go to AA.

If it were that easy I wonder why there still are alcoholics. And it's not because they don't want to stop, 99% of all addicts come to that point and that's the problem with addiction. You think "I have to stop, this is killing me, I know it! I need help! ...just one more.".

[RJDiogenes]

Must be a method actor.

[Dream]

Dorian Thompson wrote:

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Oh dude. Why would you mess up your twilight years like that? You've got a job on a great show....everything's just too good? Sorry--alcoholics confound me. They're just compelled to destroy themselves and everything good in their lives.

If this was LOST his character would immediately be killed off after the DUI!

[Sindatur]

Dream wrote:

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If this was LOST his character would immediately be killed off after the DUI!

Didn't Daniel Dae Kim, Matt Fox or Naveen Andrews also get one, even earlier than Michelle

[Dream]

Sindatur wrote:

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Didn't Daniel Dae Kim, Matt Fox or Naveen Andrews also get one, even earlier than Michelle

Matthew Fox got his DUI after the show was over.

Not everyone got fired after a traffic violation, but many of them did. Not sure why the LOST cast had so many problems with that.

http://www.tmz.com/2007/10/25/lost-d...ae-kim-busted/

[Mr. Adventure]

According to a police report of the arrest that occurred last week, an officer observed a PT Cruiser driving erratically in the area of Highway 74.

I can totally picture him in a PT Cruiser.

[propita]

I don't understand alcoholics. I know their lives are different, so there's no one road to becoming an alcoholic, but some are puzzling. I mean, if you come from a family of alcoholics and you yourself have the opportunity to see the problems caused and the frame of mind to not follow, then why at some point do you follow? I heard one person say just this--their entire family were alcoholics, ye they themselves never touched it precisely because of what they experienced.

Is this too rational and most people, stuck with whatever problems are befalling them, cannot help but fall into the same trap?

In a similar vein, my family is STUPID (I mean it: stupid and in denial) about money and not thinking about consequences, yet I'm the one who's considered to be "over-thinking" about things--yet I don't have their self-caused economic crises, precisely because I looked at them and decided, "oh hell no."

[Silvercrest]

propita wrote:

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I mean, if you come from a family of alcoholics and you yourself have the opportunity to see the problems caused and the frame of mind to not follow, then why at some point do you follow?

If a person grows up with that environment as "normal", then he may not perceive it as a problem.

Or, he may simply wind up following the patterns he was raised with because they're ingrained into him. Even if he knows better. Imagine how many times people say, "I'm never going to be like my parents!" and they turn out just the same anyway. It's hard to get away from your programming.

[Borgminister]

Beagleman wrote:

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If it were that easy I wonder why there still are alcoholics. And it's not because they don't want to stop, 99% of all addicts come to that point and that's the problem with addiction. You think "I have to stop, this is killing me, I know it! I need help! ...just one more.".

Who said it was easy?

[RJDiogenes]

propita wrote:

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Is this too rational and most people, stuck with whatever problems are befalling them, cannot help but fall into the same trap?

My family is rife with alcoholics, religious fanatics, bigots and lowbrow throwbacks. I grew up the way I did because I know how to learn from a bad example.

[propita]

That's exactly what I mean, O, Mighty Grape! Does learning from a negative require above average thinking? It sounds like it does.

[RJDiogenes]

Unfortunately, it seems to be a rare talent, in any case.

[Morpheus 02]

Sorr to put this off topic (or maybe on topic), but shouldn't we have a new thread starting for Season 3... maybe with a "previously, on the Walking Dead Thread" summary?