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Old August 24 2012, 10:17 AM   #1471
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Well, then, perhaps I heard wrong. I've never paid much attention to the show. I could have sworn I read an article where he was unhappy to be stuck with the baggage from the original BSG-- I assumed from the context that it was forced upon him by Sciffy.
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Old August 24 2012, 10:23 AM   #1472
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Well, then, perhaps I heard wrong. I've never paid much attention to the show. I could have sworn I read an article where he was unhappy to be stuck with the baggage from the original BSG-- I assumed from the context that it was forced upon him by Sciffy.
Even if that's true, a remake need not retain everything from the original. So, in and of itself being forced by "overlords" to retain more material than might be preferred would be irrelevant to whether the project was, at heart, a RINO.

Said another way, touching other bases doesn't cancel out the presence of a core.
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Old August 24 2012, 06:57 PM   #1473
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Yeah, calling nuBSG "a remake in name only" doesn't make sense. It was a remake, a reimagining, and a reboot, all.
Yep. Exacty so. I've seen most of the original Galactica and all of the remake, and the notion that Moore's version paid only lip service to Larson's is a non-starter.

It helps, of course, to actually pay enough attention to a thing to critique it with some accuracy, if one's determined to critique at all.
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Old August 24 2012, 07:15 PM   #1474
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Well, then, perhaps I heard wrong. I've never paid much attention to the show. I could have sworn I read an article where he was unhappy to be stuck with the baggage from the original BSG-- I assumed from the context that it was forced upon him by Sciffy.
Seriously? After all this time and all the negativity you've thrown at the re-imagining, you "never paid much attention to the show" ?

You don't think it's arrogant or well, silly to judge something based on whatever minuscule attention you did pay it?

How in the world can you make an informed opinion on something if you haven't paid any attention to it? That'd be like me telling you your writing is shit because I don't like the cover art of your book. (Which I'd never do, by the way, because if I were to comment on any of your writing, I'd have taken the time to read it first.)

Really disappointed in this.

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It helps, of course, to actually pay enough attention to a thing to critique it with some accuracy, if one's determined to critique at all.
Precisely. If only more people online who are so hell bent on bitching about stuff would follow this simple advice, we'd have less stupidity to sift through.
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Old August 24 2012, 10:51 PM   #1475
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Well, then, perhaps I heard wrong. I've never paid much attention to the show. I could have sworn I read an article where he was unhappy to be stuck with the baggage from the original BSG-- I assumed from the context that it was forced upon him by Sciffy.
Even if that's true, a remake need not retain everything from the original. So, in and of itself being forced by "overlords" to retain more material than might be preferred would be irrelevant to whether the project was, at heart, a RINO.

Said another way, touching other bases doesn't cancel out the presence of a core.
Nevertheless, he was obviously not a fan of the original and wanted nothing to do with it-- you would think he'd be happy to have it be called a RINO.

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Well, then, perhaps I heard wrong. I've never paid much attention to the show. I could have sworn I read an article where he was unhappy to be stuck with the baggage from the original BSG-- I assumed from the context that it was forced upon him by Sciffy.
Seriously? After all this time and all the negativity you've thrown at the re-imagining, you "never paid much attention to the show" ?

You don't think it's arrogant or well, silly to judge something based on whatever minuscule attention you did pay it?

How in the world can you make an informed opinion on something if you haven't paid any attention to it?
Because I watched the mini-series, the first half of the first season, the finale and various bits and pieces along the way. What I didn't do was follow all the behind-the-scenes trivia.
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Old August 24 2012, 10:54 PM   #1476
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‘Babylon 5′ Creator For Pandemic series for ABC in development

The untitled project is described as a high-octane pandemic thriller that combines closed-ended procedural and serialized elements
ABC has put in development a pandemic thriller drama from Overbrook Entertainment, the company co-founded by Will Smith and James Lassiter.

Lassiter and Overbrook partner Jada Pinkett Smith are executive producing the project, written/executive produced by Babylon 5 creator J. Michael Straczynski and financed by Georgeville Television
Like with all Georgeville projects, the ABC drama has a script-to-series commitment, meaning that if ABC likes the script, that will trigger a 13-episode series order.
I think a pandemic offers a lot of stories and multiple characters' viewpoints like in Contagion. A 13-episode series would allow for great character development and thriller-like aspects like The Killing series.
I think if it gets the greenlight then the pilot won't feel so standalone and instead introduce a lot more characters.

also in the genre in preproduction right now TNT has a pilot shooting:
The Last Ship, with Michael Bay directing, will follow crewmembers of a naval destroyer who wind up among the last survivors on Earth after a virus decimates the population.
I guess ABC wants to get in on this genre. I have a feeling though TNT will do it better.

related:
the last pandemic film/TV series which was realistic but not great. I loved the music though.
"Contagion" virus thriller dir. by Steven Soderbergh
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Old August 24 2012, 11:00 PM   #1477
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^^ Depends on the results, which are unlikely to be good at this point. And I disagree that Abrams was in any way faithful to the tone and spirit of Trek. Quite the opposite, actually.
Well there's no point to arguing about that, since its obvious to me that Abrams was true to the spirit of Trek, that Moore was not true to the spirit of original BSG, and that both decisions were the correct one. But in the end, the only thing that really matters is, were the results good?

But by "results," if you mean B7, why couldnt the results be perfectly good, regardless of whether its true to the spirit, tone, or canon of the original?
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Old August 24 2012, 11:03 PM   #1478
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Well, then, perhaps I heard wrong. I've never paid much attention to the show. I could have sworn I read an article where he was unhappy to be stuck with the baggage from the original BSG-- I assumed from the context that it was forced upon him by Sciffy.
Even if that's true, a remake need not retain everything from the original. So, in and of itself being forced by "overlords" to retain more material than might be preferred would be irrelevant to whether the project was, at heart, a RINO.

Said another way, touching other bases doesn't cancel out the presence of a core.
Nevertheless, he was obviously not a fan of the original and wanted nothing to do with it-- you would think he'd be happy to have it be called a RINO.

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Well, then, perhaps I heard wrong. I've never paid much attention to the show. I could have sworn I read an article where he was unhappy to be stuck with the baggage from the original BSG-- I assumed from the context that it was forced upon him by Sciffy.
Seriously? After all this time and all the negativity you've thrown at the re-imagining, you "never paid much attention to the show" ?

You don't think it's arrogant or well, silly to judge something based on whatever minuscule attention you did pay it?

How in the world can you make an informed opinion on something if you haven't paid any attention to it?
Because I watched the mini-series, the first half of the first season, the finale and various bits and pieces along the way. What I didn't do was follow all the behind-the-scenes trivia.
Yet you complained about the series well beyond the end of the first season, complained about the show for years after you stopped watching it. I even remember at one point (perhaps more than once) you referred to Edward James Olmos as "old leatherface."

How do you honestly expect people to take you seriously?
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Old August 24 2012, 11:04 PM   #1479
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^^ Depends on the results, which are unlikely to be good at this point. And I disagree that Abrams was in any way faithful to the tone and spirit of Trek. Quite the opposite, actually.
Well there's no point to arguing about that, since its obvious to me that Abrams was true to the spirit of Trek, that Moore was not true to the spirit of original BSG, and that both decisions were the correct one. But in the end, the only thing that really matters is, were the results good?
Yes, they were. That's an opinion of course, but it's one backed by the overall success of each production, be it financially (especially in the case of Trek 2009) or critically (especially in the case of nuBSG.)
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Old August 24 2012, 11:27 PM   #1480
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^^ Depends on the results, which are unlikely to be good at this point. And I disagree that Abrams was in any way faithful to the tone and spirit of Trek. Quite the opposite, actually.
Well there's no point to arguing about that, since its obvious to me that Abrams was true to the spirit of Trek, that Moore was not true to the spirit of original BSG, and that both decisions were the correct one. But in the end, the only thing that really matters is, were the results good?

But by "results," if you mean B7, why couldnt the results be perfectly good, regardless of whether its true to the spirit, tone, or canon of the original?
No, I don't know anything about B7. I was referring to your comment about a new ST, which is more likely to follow the tone and spirit of the movie rather than the original. By tone and spirit, I'm referring to the original being a thoughtful attempt at adult SF which dealt with social and humanistic issues, as opposed to the movie which was a shallow action-fest that only brought up the concept of ethics in order to mock them.

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Yet you complained about the series well beyond the end of the first season, complained about the show for years after you stopped watching it. I even remember at one point (perhaps more than once) you referred to Edward James Olmos as "old leatherface."
I never complained about it, I criticized it and brought it up as an example of certain trends in pop culture. Obviously, I've seen more than enough of it to be able to discuss it (especially given that even its supporters agree that it is what it is even if they disagree about the quality). As for "Old Leatherface," have you seen the guy? And what does that have to do with the quality of the show? Which, by the way, I did not bring up in this thread.

How do you honestly expect people to take you seriously?
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Old August 29 2012, 07:20 AM   #1481
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Fox has bought Athena, a drama project from writer Lisa Joy (Pushing Daisies), Chernin Entertainment and 20th Century Fox TV. The project, which has received a script commitment, is based on Joy’s graphic novel, Headache, a coming-of-age drama about a 23 year-old woman who discovers she’s Athena, the Greek goddess of wisdom and warfare. Each week she must maintain her secret identity while battling a slew of ancient monsters from Greek mythology and searching to uncover which of the other Greek gods is secretly plotting against her to take over the Earth.
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Old August 29 2012, 07:32 AM   #1482
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Sounds Wonderwoman -ish.
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Old August 29 2012, 09:31 AM   #1483
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Also Buffy-ish.
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Old August 29 2012, 03:45 PM   #1484
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Hope she's hot.
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Old August 29 2012, 06:18 PM   #1485
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And Xena-ish.
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