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Old August 18 2012, 10:52 PM   #1051
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Old August 19 2012, 02:05 AM   #1052
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Two new cast members for season three: Dan Hildebrand as Kraznys, the Astapori slaver with whom Daenerys negotiates for the Unsullied, and Ramon Tikaram as Prendahl, one of the captains of the Stormcrows.
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Old August 20 2012, 02:36 PM   #1053
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Old August 20 2012, 04:38 PM   #1054
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Two more new cast members: Daario will be played by newcomer Ed Skrein, while Grey Worm of the Unsullied will be Jacob Anderson.
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Old August 20 2012, 05:19 PM   #1055
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I have just finished book 3. Since this is labeled as a spoiler discussion, I am not going to include tags.

For the faux Arya storyline, do the plotters not think that anyone will notice? Granted most of the peole of Winterfell are dead, but Sansa and Jon are still alive and kicking. One visit from the Wall or Sansa getting out from under Littlefinger and that ruse is shot. It seems a dumb move on the part of the Boltons and Lannisters.

I wonder if Robb did legitmize Jon? He told Cat he was going to have Jon made his heir. He does have the Northern Lords sign something before his death but it does not say what.

I think Jon is headed on a different path now though. I think he is doomed. He seems to feel that he has no claim/nor should he have from his perspective to Winterfell (though Stannis offered). I get the feeling that the war with the Others is Jon's purpose and that he will probably die saving the realms of men.

Dany annoys me. She just whines and acts all entitled. She has no pep as a person to make you care one jot about her.

Stannis went up in my estimation when he headed to the wall to actually do something other than grind his teeth.

Sam's plotting to make Jon the next Lord Commander was a hoot.

I get the feeling that Cold Hands is Benjen.
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Old August 20 2012, 08:15 PM   #1056
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I'd reckon so- but they still haven't said...
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Jeyne as Arya is plausible enough that the northern lords can plead ignorance. It is all just for show and most people who care already know it to be a farce. Who is going to ally with Sansa against the Boltons and Lannisters in such a confrontation?

Not only did Robb possibly legitimize Jon, but it is possible that Ned revealed his true parentage at some point when he was held in the black cells. So there are potentially two letters headed his way (or not) with information that could offer him a kingdom or all 7 on a platter. He is unlikely to break his vows to serve the Watch until his death, but events at the end of ADWD might have changed the landscape a bit.
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Old August 22 2012, 01:55 PM   #1058
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Here's a funny piece of fan-art in the veins of Charles Addams' Addams Family but with the Lannisters. Bit spoiler-ific, if you're not yet onto book 3.

http://bubug.deviantart.com/#/d5bmymc
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I love how Jaime's "hand" is still with him there. Nicely done...
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Watch where you're pointing that arrow Tyrion!!!!
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Old August 22 2012, 04:17 PM   #1061
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^^^ They should have had him holding a crossbow.
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Nice. There's also a spoiler for A Feast for Crows in there, but you'd probably have to be looking for it to notice.
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How much stock do you put in Sean Bean saying that Ned is not Jon's father? Would the show runners even share that with an actor, or did Bean read the books and infer?

If Cat has become a being totally consumed with vengence, I wonder if it will fall to someone to stop her? Of course, I would personally be happy if zombie Cat killed all the Freys... (I just finished book 3 and am going to start 4 tonight.)

Has Arya become too bloody minded? I wonder if Martin will have her see that her path is leading her astray? Right now she strikes me as a little too hardened and used to murder.
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Old August 22 2012, 09:33 PM   #1064
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It's hard to see how or why Sean Bean would know any more than the ordinary reader, given that his role ended in Season 1. I'd be surprised if even Benioff and Weiss know the truth yet. I imagine that only GRRM knows - and I'd be totally surprised if he was telling even those involved in writing the show (never mind actors).
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Old August 22 2012, 09:39 PM   #1065
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I imagine that if Bean wanted to know or the showrunners thought it would improve his performance (pause for laughter at the notion of Bean being that subtle an actor), they would indeed tell him about Jon's parentage, assuming they know themselves. And I believe George R. R. Martin himself had said that he would share unrevealed information about their characters with the actors if asked. Apparently Martin told Alfie Allen who Jon's parents were-- he would hardly tell the guy who plays Theon and refuse the guy who plays Ned.

Both of your other questions will be addressed in one way or another in book 4, so I'd just say, read on.
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