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Old August 17 2012, 05:44 PM   #616
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Okay, I got around to "Angel One" last night. I know it's dogged a lot around here, but after seeing it for the first time in years, it's not THAT bad. Yes you have the awkward moments, but it was cool seeing Geordi (and then Data) in command as well as Riker having to think on his feet in giving a "Picard-like" speech to Beata without the help of Picard who was incapacitated.
For someone who is very, VERY sensitive on the depiction and treatment of women in entertainment, Angel One felt like an episode that tried to tell a clever gender story and not really succeeding. For starters, TNG didn't come off as a gender equality amongst it's characters even though we're supposed to be dealing with an enlightened humanity. Men are still primarily the ones in charge and women are the doctors and councilors. I know the series had Tasha Yar as the head security officer, but Picard rarely respected her. Remember the episode Haven when she made the suggestion to disable a ship that was about to endanger an entire planet? Picard's reaction was simply "And then what, Lieutenant?". This is the chief of security on the Federation flagship trying to help a planet, and Picard just openly calls her very logical plan as incompetent in front of the whole bridge crew.

With all of that and other episodes that literally state that women are not important, I can't help but feel this episode to be a little bit ironic in trying to show how far humanity has come. Also, it doesn't help that the rebellious survivor who we're supposed to sympathize with is acting like a smug jerk the whole entire time.
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Old August 17 2012, 06:14 PM   #617
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I dunno, I think that's a bit unfair to how women were treated in TNG.

Anyway, Angel One I've always found to be a decent episode and I've never seen much problem with that others seem to have. The only real problem I have with it is that it goes a little overboard in depicting the men of Angel I to be the "weaker sex" and overboard in how little women on the planet regarded the intelligence and capability of men, including the men from an alien race.
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Old August 17 2012, 06:20 PM   #618
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Well, I'll say one thing about women on the series. For all the hay Roddenberry made about NBC rejecting a female first officer because a 60s audience wasn't ready for a woman in a position of authority (of course, nonsense), it's amusing that with a relative free hand and an 80s audience, Star Trek: The Next Generation chose to put men in charge.
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Old August 17 2012, 10:22 PM   #619
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Having just watched Haven this evening I do have to wonder if they checked the product at all before they sent them out to the retailers. The first two minutes sounds like the sound was recorded in a bathroom and the second half of the episode is full of echoes. Picture looks very nice though.
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Old August 18 2012, 02:02 AM   #620
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Late to the party here. I just received my set this afternoon. I've only watched Encounter At Farpoint so far as well as some of the supplementary materiel.

The new images are really nice with the added clarity, detail and true colour. In terms of sound, though, I found it better not to listen to it in 7.1.

I'm pleased enough so far to think I'll be replacing my dvd sets with these.
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Old August 18 2012, 02:49 AM   #621
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Robert Meyer Burnett ‏@BurnettRM
Hey @MMSnodgrass...I DO NOT want you to LIVE-TWEET the
Extended "Measure of a Man" tonight. It's simply not finished enough.
#blameme

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@MMSnodgrass The Video looks AMAZING...but the audio simply
isn't finished...so the experience won't be optimum. Best foot
forward...

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Robert, in director mode, has decreed Measure not quite ready
for prime time. So no live tweet tonight.
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Old August 18 2012, 06:26 AM   #622
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Hmm, audio problems. Where have we heard that before....
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Old August 18 2012, 07:56 AM   #623
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You know with all the audio issues, maybe they should do all these remasterings in phases. After the video is done, have CBS send it to the audio division and they do the audio and those people are payed to make sure the audio is just as perfect as the video. Considering what's been going on lately, I doubt that is the case. It's one thing to remaster the series and put it in HD, but let's remaster the audio too and make it sound (Not look) beautiful.
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Old August 18 2012, 01:01 PM   #624
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There is something I have noticed since I started watching the remastered episodes. Caucasian skin looks too pink. This is most noticeable on the Enterprise sets with good illumination like the bridge. At first I thought this was due to bad calibration of our HD TV but since then I have tested the episodes on half a dozen different screens and the issue persists. It is also visible on many of the screencaps at TrekCore. White skinned people look like they have an alcohol problem or are running a fever. Have others noticed this too or am I imagining things?

The effect is especially pronounced in WNHGB.

Here are a few examples:
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...one_hd_094.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...one_hd_170.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...one_hd_219.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...one_hd_288.jpg

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Old August 18 2012, 01:03 PM   #625
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Hmm. Perhaps alcoholism is rampant in the 24th century.
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Old August 18 2012, 02:17 PM   #626
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I think especially the skin tones look perfect. They always looked off in the SD versions.
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Old August 18 2012, 02:50 PM   #627
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The deal maker for me was the colour of the command uniforms. Before they rarely looked red and now they look a proper red all the time.

I also think the skin tones look fine.
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Old August 18 2012, 03:23 PM   #628
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Skin tones look fine to me as well, any "problems" with them are more likely due to makeup methods used in the first season and most likely the... "crude" way they lit the sets in the first two seasons.
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Old August 18 2012, 03:48 PM   #629
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Skin tones look fine to me as well, any "problems" with them are more likely due to makeup methods used in the first season and most likely the... "crude" way they lit the sets in the first two seasons.
I thought the lighting from seasons one and two was far better than the "hospital" lighting they implemented for season three and on.
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Old August 18 2012, 03:53 PM   #630
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Skin tones look fine to me as well, any "problems" with them are more likely due to makeup methods used in the first season and most likely the... "crude" way they lit the sets in the first two seasons.
I thought the lighting from seasons one and two was far better than the "hospital" lighting they implemented for season three and on.
I thought so too. It was moody earlier on.
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