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Old August 7 2012, 10:41 AM   #256
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Re: Star Trek London - All 5 captains to be there!

It's quite funny that Shamasters put up that forum poll asking people which bridge set they wanted for photoshoots, when it was pretty clear from the start which one they were going to get.

AFAIK, there's no Enterprise-D bridge set outside of the US, and there's never been anywhere in the world, mock ups of the Defiant, Voyager, Enterprise-E, or Enterprise-NX bridges.

And yet people were suckered in to posting "I want the Defiant bridge etc etc".

I pity the people who've loaned the TOS bridge to Media 10. After thousands of dirty, smelly fans have walked over it to have their photo taken, and probably tried to sit in the big chair, I dread to think what condition it's going to be in. When it was at the Trek exhibition, it was roped off and you couldn't get near it.
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Old August 8 2012, 03:27 PM   #257
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Someone on twitter is saying they're taking Shamasters to court as they've not had their money back for long cancelled guest tickets from previous events.

I think this person needs some serious public support.
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Old August 8 2012, 11:07 PM   #258
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It's quite funny that Shamasters put up that forum poll asking people which bridge set they wanted for photoshoots, when it was pretty clear from the start which one they were going to get.

AFAIK, there's no Enterprise-D bridge set outside of the US, and there's never been anywhere in the world, mock ups of the Defiant, Voyager, Enterprise-E, or Enterprise-NX bridges.

And yet people were suckered in to posting "I want the Defiant bridge etc etc".

I pity the people who've loaned the TOS bridge to Media 10. After thousands of dirty, smelly fans have walked over it to have their photo taken, and probably tried to sit in the big chair, I dread to think what condition it's going to be in. When it was at the Trek exhibition, it was roped off and you couldn't get near it.
The event in London was Star Trek The Experience - it was the Enterprise D bridge too, not the original
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Old August 9 2012, 11:53 AM   #259
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The event in London was Star Trek The Experience - it was the Enterprise D bridge too, not the original
Star Trek: The Exhibition was in London. The Experience was in Vegas.

There was an exhibition in Edinburgh many years ago that had a roped off TOS bridge. That may be what Admiral Bear is thinking of.
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Old August 9 2012, 12:08 PM   #260
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I was at that very exhibition, the bridge was all roped off, you went by like you were at a state funeral.....lol

Although i did take a chance, jumped the rope, and had a quick photo taken standing next to the caps chair before security noticed.
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Old August 9 2012, 01:38 PM   #261
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There was an exhibition in Edinburgh many years ago that had a roped off TOS bridge. That may be what Admiral Bear is thinking of.
Yup, that's the one. It was a long time ago, but I think it did a brief UK tour before it came to London which is where I saw it.

Was OK, but it wasn't worth the ticket price.

People starting to grumble on the Shamasters forum about the lack of new guests, particularly higher quality ones. I can't believe they seriously think they're going to get any.
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Old August 9 2012, 03:27 PM   #262
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There was an exhibition in Edinburgh many years ago that had a roped off TOS bridge. That may be what Admiral Bear is thinking of.
Yup, that's the one. It was a long time ago, but I think it did a brief UK tour before it came to London which is where I saw it.

Was OK, but it wasn't worth the ticket price.

People starting to grumble on the Shamasters forum about the lack of new guests, particularly higher quality ones. I can't believe they seriously think they're going to get any.
I remember going to an exhibition called 'Star Trek: The Adventure' about 10 years ago in London's Hyde Park. It had a roped-off TOS bridge and a TNG bridge that you could walk around as well as sit in the command chairs. I quite enjoyed seeing it, I have to say.

And I do think this convention WILL HAPPEN. The idea that no-one will show up and the event won't come off at all is a bit fanciful, wouldn't you say?
It'll probably be like an overpriced Collectormania or LFCC though. Lots of queues, lots of crowds, lots of waiting around to see glimpses of celebrities and lots of money changing hands for whatever 'entertainment' is on offer. Okay if you've got limitless funds, otherwise probably not.

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Old August 9 2012, 05:26 PM   #263
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I vaguely remember that TNG bridge set. Actually, I remember being herded through it at break neck speed, and staff stopping you from sitting in the chairs.

The photoshoots at DSTL will be a completely unknown quantity and quality given that Shamasters have dispensed with Malcolm and his other staff. No one should pay for photoshoot tickets with cash. If the photo isn't of sufficient quality, or you don't get it at all which has happened to people after LFCC, you can claim back from your card provider instead of having to take Joiner to court.
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Old August 14 2012, 08:34 PM   #264
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The departure of Malcolm and his staff made it on to the Shamasters forum, however all posts have been deleted by Joiner and the thread locked.

Am loving the complete lack of information and Stalinist manner in which this event is (isn't) being run. Even complaint posts on the DSTL facebook page went south overnight.

With Scott Bakula presumably having is Liberace film shooting soon (he's grown the 70's tache and sideburns), I can see him not being available for DSTL. Would give Joiner the perfect excuse. Patrick Stewart is also cancelling upcoming appearances as he has filming commitments.

Also, hilarious that after Joiner told Garrett Wang to go spit, the MD of Media 10 is on Twitter trying to tap up Bill Bailey to present the opening ceremony, yup, you know that thing that no will be able to get in to because Media 10 & Shamasters won't put the effing tickets on sale, and can't even seem to decide if they want to let the poor day ticket plebs in anyway.

Despite the fact I saw all this coming, you still couldn't make it up.
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Old August 15 2012, 02:56 PM   #265
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The departure of Malcolm and his staff made it on to the Shamasters forum, however all posts have been deleted by Joiner and the thread locked.

Am loving the complete lack of information and Stalinist manner in which this event is (isn't) being run. Even complaint posts on the DSTL facebook page went south overnight.

With Scott Bakula presumably having is Liberace film shooting soon (he's grown the 70's tache and sideburns), I can see him not being available for DSTL. Would give Joiner the perfect excuse. Patrick Stewart is also cancelling upcoming appearances as he has filming commitments.

Also, hilarious that after Joiner told Garrett Wang to go spit, the MD of Media 10 is on Twitter trying to tap up Bill Bailey to present the opening ceremony, yup, you know that thing that no will be able to get in to because Media 10 & Shamasters won't put the effing tickets on sale, and can't even seem to decide if they want to let the poor day ticket plebs in anyway.

Despite the fact I saw all this coming, you still couldn't make it up.
I missed all of this. Why was Malcolm and his staff fired?
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Old August 15 2012, 07:44 PM   #266
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I missed all of this. Why was Malcolm and his staff fired?
That's not been disclosed, however you can likely pick from either Shamasters cost cutting, or that Malcolm paid for some of the appalling quality photoshoots that were taken by his trainees at LFCC.
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Old August 16 2012, 06:11 PM   #267
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An email update apparently due tomorrow.

Now, don't everyone rush at once.

The tickets are being sent out in 4 weeks time, and so far there are:

No ticket sales for the Opening Ceremony/Five Captains talk
No ticket sales for the Bridge photoshoot.
No publically announced information on what Bridge set will be used for the photoshoot.
No information on stunt shows.
No ticket sales for stunt shows (assuming they're a paid for "extra" event, but who the fuck knows)
And WTF will "Multiple stages for varied programming" be? Ah yes, must be Joiner speak for "fuck all".
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Old August 17 2012, 03:54 PM   #268
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Prices for the opening ceremony and 5 Captains talk tickets have just gone on sale.

£95!!!

I fell off my chair! And they're not even on sale until next month. So that's £29 just to get in, and another £95 to see an hour long talk.

Shamasters can fuck right off.

Still no Bridge photoshoot ticket announcement. Appalling.
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Old August 17 2012, 04:28 PM   #269
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Prices for the opening ceremony and 5 Captains talk tickets have just gone on sale.

£95!!!

I fell off my chair! And they're not even on sale until next month. So that's £29 just to get in, and another £95 to see an hour long talk.

Shamasters can fuck right off.

Still no Bridge photoshoot ticket announcement. Appalling.
I know!! £95? Way, way too expensive IMO. I was expecting maybe £50 or £60 (and even that I would've baulked at), but this is crazy. Not at all worth it; glad I decided not to go. Phew! What a lucky escape.
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Old August 17 2012, 04:42 PM   #270
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It's not as if many people will be there on the Friday afternoon anyway. Looks like this will be the emptiest opening ceremony in history, but then I wouldn't have expected that clueless dolt Joiner to price the tickets at a level that would get people through the door and fill the place up a bit. Shows how few of the silver and gold packages have been sold if the pay on the day punters are having to subsidise the event to this level. And with the tickets only going on sale 2 weeks before they're posted out, it makes you wonder what exactly Joiner's up to.

And if wanted to be really cynical, I'd say main series actors have been told not to say that they're not coming. The same person has trolled the usual sites saying that Brent Spiner has said he's attending, quoting some obscure web chat. Well, along with pretty much everything else, Brent hasn't been announced. All smacks of Michael Dorn's "wouldn't miss it for the world" tweet months ago. Haven't seen him on the guest list either.

Manu whatshisface and Eddie Paskey announced today are just pathetic announcements. And to have the cheek to fill up space on the flyer with Nana, Rene and Alice as "new guests" when they were announced weeks ago shows what little Media 10 and Shamasters have to say about this event.

This event is what quite a few people had it nailed as right from the start. A money making scam. Except, it looks like Joiner will be running it at a mahoooosive loss. Rumour is he's only sold 50 tickets for Lords of Time which smelt like a DSTL fundraiser.

I think I've now formally abandoned any plans I had to go to this half baked scam.

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