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View Poll Results: Prometheus - Poll
A + 16 6.90%
A 27 11.64%
A - 32 13.79%
B + 43 18.53%
B 33 14.22%
B - 21 9.05%
C + 19 8.19%
C 8 3.45%
C - 15 6.47%
D 12 5.17%
F 6 2.59%
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Old August 11 2012, 03:19 AM   #916
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Re: PROMETHEUS - Grade and Discuss

After Destination: Moon in 1951 actual science advising has been rather hit-and-miss in film and television SF. Actually it was spotty before that, too, after Fritz Lang's Frau Im Mond (Woman In The Moon) in 1929.
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Old August 11 2012, 10:27 AM   #917
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Prof. Brian Cox from BBC's Wonder's series was scientific advisor on Sunshine. He said the first thing he did when he read the script was go "wrong, wrong, wrong" to the premise but without that there's no film, so he concentrated on making stuff work for the rest of the film.
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Old August 11 2012, 02:09 PM   #918
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Prof. Brian Cox from BBC's Wonder's series was scientific advisor on Sunshine. He said the first thing he did when he read the script was go "wrong, wrong, wrong" to the premise but without that there's no film, so he concentrated on making stuff work for the rest of the film.
I went "wrong, wrong, wrong" throughout that entire film. I think Sunshine is just as bad a Prometheus when it comes to totally stupid characters and plotholes. That film was very painful to watch.
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Old August 11 2012, 02:37 PM   #919
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JarodRussell wrote: View Post
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Prof. Brian Cox from BBC's Wonder's series was scientific advisor on Sunshine. He said the first thing he did when he read the script was go "wrong, wrong, wrong" to the premise but without that there's no film, so he concentrated on making stuff work for the rest of the film.
I went "wrong, wrong, wrong" throughout that entire film. I think Sunshine is just as bad a Prometheus when it comes to totally stupid characters and plotholes. That film was very painful to watch.
I seem to remember enjoying the first 2/3rds or so, but I haven't seen it since it was on at the cinema.
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Old August 12 2012, 08:03 PM   #920
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Prof. Brian Cox from BBC's Wonder's series was scientific advisor on Sunshine. He said the first thing he did when he read the script was go "wrong, wrong, wrong" to the premise but without that there's no film, so he concentrated on making stuff work for the rest of the film.
I went "wrong, wrong, wrong" throughout that entire film. I think Sunshine is just as bad a Prometheus when it comes to totally stupid characters and plotholes. That film was very painful to watch.
I'm GENERALLY fine with not great science in sci fi (unless it's egregious) if I'm engaged with the characters and the story. It falls into suspension of disbelief.

A film can have all the accurate science it wants, if it's not compelling, if the characters are idiots, if the plot is contrived and relies on coincidence, it's a shit film... no matter how good the science.
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Old August 12 2012, 08:14 PM   #921
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I just wish people who cracked a book once in a while or paid attention in high school were allowed to make movies.

Don't think I'll live to see the day.
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Old August 18 2012, 03:32 PM   #922
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A full list of the THIRTY-FOUR MINUTES of deleted scenes from Prometheus has made it online! Clearly there won't be a Director's Cut (at least not this first go-around - maybe after Paradise is released), but the titles alone (in film order) demand fans' attention:

"Arrival of the Engineers" (Extended Opening, 2:31)
"T'is The Season" (0:58)
"Our first Alien" (0:42)
"Skin" (0:42)
"We're Not Alone Anymore" (01:22)
"Strange Bedfellows" (2:57)
"Holloway's Hangover" (1:25)
"David's Objective" (0:23)
"Janek Fills Vickers In" (03:27)
"A King Has His Reign..." (Extended scene, 3:40)
"Fifield Attacks" (Alternate scene with half-Xeno Fifield, 2:01)
"The Engineer Speaks" (Extended scene, 04:01)
"The Final Battle" (Extended scene, 5:30)
"Paradise" (?!?!?, 5:05)

As well as a FOURTH viral video:

"Prometheus Transmission" (06:44)
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Old August 18 2012, 03:50 PM   #923
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Nightowl1701 wrote: View Post
A full list of the THIRTY-FOUR MINUTES of deleted scenes from Prometheus has made it online! Clearly there won't be a Director's Cut (at least not this first go-around - maybe after Paradise is released), but the titles alone (in film order) demand fans' attention:

"Arrival of the Engineers" (Extended Opening, 2:31)
"T'is The Season" (0:58)
"Our first Alien" (0:42)
"Skin" (0:42)
"We're Not Alone Anymore" (01:22)
"Strange Bedfellows" (2:57)
"Holloway's Hangover" (1:25)
"David's Objective" (0:23)
"Janek Fills Vickers In" (03:27)
"A King Has His Reign..." (Extended scene, 3:40)
"Fifield Attacks" (Alternate scene with half-Xeno Fifield, 2:01)
"The Engineer Speaks" (Extended scene, 04:01)
"The Final Battle" (Extended scene, 5:30)
"Paradise" (?!?!?, 5:05)

As well as a FOURTH viral video:

"Prometheus Transmission" (06:44)
Maybe they'll allow you to watch the film with or without the deleted scenes.
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Old August 18 2012, 04:15 PM   #924
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Warped9 wrote: View Post
Nightowl1701 wrote: View Post
A full list of the THIRTY-FOUR MINUTES of deleted scenes from Prometheus has made it online! Clearly there won't be a Director's Cut (at least not this first go-around - maybe after Paradise is released), but the titles alone (in film order) demand fans' attention:

"Arrival of the Engineers" (Extended Opening, 2:31)
"T'is The Season" (0:58)
"Our first Alien" (0:42)
"Skin" (0:42)
"We're Not Alone Anymore" (01:22)
"Strange Bedfellows" (2:57)
"Holloway's Hangover" (1:25)
"David's Objective" (0:23)
"Janek Fills Vickers In" (03:27)
"A King Has His Reign..." (Extended scene, 3:40)
"Fifield Attacks" (Alternate scene with half-Xeno Fifield, 2:01)
"The Engineer Speaks" (Extended scene, 04:01)
"The Final Battle" (Extended scene, 5:30)
"Paradise" (?!?!?, 5:05)

As well as a FOURTH viral video:

"Prometheus Transmission" (06:44)
Maybe they'll allow you to watch the film with or without the deleted scenes.
I don't think the visual effects for these scenes are finalized.
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Old August 18 2012, 04:28 PM   #925
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Nightowl1701 wrote: View Post
A full list of the THIRTY-FOUR MINUTES of deleted scenes from Prometheus has made it online! Clearly there won't be a Director's Cut (at least not this first go-around - maybe after Paradise is released), but the titles alone (in film order) demand fans' attention:

"Arrival of the Engineers" (Extended Opening, 2:31)
"T'is The Season" (0:58)
"Our first Alien" (0:42)
"Skin" (0:42)
"We're Not Alone Anymore" (01:22)
"Strange Bedfellows" (2:57)
"Holloway's Hangover" (1:25)
"David's Objective" (0:23)
"Janek Fills Vickers In" (03:27)
"A King Has His Reign..." (Extended scene, 3:40)
"Fifield Attacks" (Alternate scene with half-Xeno Fifield, 2:01)
"The Engineer Speaks" (Extended scene, 04:01)
"The Final Battle" (Extended scene, 5:30)
"Paradise" (?!?!?, 5:05)

As well as a FOURTH viral video:

"Prometheus Transmission" (06:44)

"Janek Fills Vickers In" ... their sex-scene?
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Old August 19 2012, 12:12 AM   #926
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Re: PROMETHEUS - Grade and Discuss

What would be the bow-chicka-wow-wow tune made by an accordion?
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Old August 19 2012, 01:53 AM   #927
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This sounds really cool; can't wait to own the film on DVD.
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Old August 19 2012, 10:09 AM   #928
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This sounds really cool; can't wait to own the film on DVD.
I'd say Blu Ray, but I agree
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Old August 19 2012, 01:10 PM   #929
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Unfortunately, extended scenes won't change that the characters act terribly stupid and have terrible motivations. The only character that didn't behave like an idiot and who actually knew what he was doing was Janek. Unfortunately, he became an idiot again when it came to prevent the Space Croissant from flying to Earth.
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Old August 19 2012, 01:57 PM   #930
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Unfortunately, extended scenes won't change that the characters act terribly stupid and have terrible motivations. The only character that didn't behave like an idiot and who actually knew what he was doing was Janek. Unfortunately, he became an idiot again when it came to prevent the Space Croissant from flying to Earth.
The beauty of it all is: you don't have to watch the film again.
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