RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 141,547
Posts: 5,513,363
Members: 25,143
Currently online: 512
Newest member: ShadowL

TrekToday headlines

Two New Starships Collection Ships
By: T'Bonz on Dec 26

Captain Kirk’s Boldest Missions
By: T'Bonz on Dec 25

Trek Paper Clips
By: T'Bonz on Dec 24

Sargent Passes
By: T'Bonz on Dec 23

QMx Trek Insignia Badges
By: T'Bonz on Dec 23

And The New Director Of Star Trek 3 Is…
By: T'Bonz on Dec 23

TV Alert: Pine On Tonight Show
By: T'Bonz on Dec 22

Retro Review: The Emperor’s New Cloak
By: Michelle on Dec 20

Star Trek Opera
By: T'Bonz on Dec 19

New Abrams Project
By: T'Bonz on Dec 18


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Entertainment & Interests > Science Fiction & Fantasy

Science Fiction & Fantasy Farscape, Babylon 5, Star Wars, Firefly, vampires, genre books and film.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old August 9 2012, 12:25 AM   #1411
Temis the Vorta
Fleet Admiral
 
Temis the Vorta's Avatar
 
Location: Tatoinne
Re: sf/f TV development news - 2012

Actual space opera sighting: Clandestine!

SyFy has put in development Clandestine, a drama produced by Universal Cable Prods. Written by actor-writer Todd Stashwick and artist Dennis Calero, Clandestine is described as a swash-buckling space drama/adventure and revolves around mercenaries who masquerade as part of an Intergalactic fleet...The project stems from an option at UCP had on Stashwick & Calero's online comic Devil Inside.
Temis the Vorta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 9 2012, 01:02 AM   #1412
Jeff O'Connor
Commodore
 
Jeff O'Connor's Avatar
 
Location: Tampa, FL
View Jeff O'Connor's Twitter Profile Send a message via AIM to Jeff O'Connor Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to Jeff O'Connor
Re: sf/f TV development news - 2012

Hell yes.

Please don't suck too badly.
__________________
Star Trek
1966-
Jeff O'Connor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 9 2012, 02:58 AM   #1413
Temis the Vorta
Fleet Admiral
 
Temis the Vorta's Avatar
 
Location: Tatoinne
Re: sf/f TV development news - 2012

Who says HBO doesn't do sci fi?

Michael R. Roskam, who got a Best Foreign-Language Film Oscar nomination last year for his Belgian film Bullhead, is at the center of a new HBO pilot script order, one which teams him with Michael Mann and Breaking Bad executive producer Mark Johnson. HBO has ordered a pilot script for a drama titled Buda Bridge, a Belgian-set crime story that takes place in Brussels in the near future. It unfolds when a woman is found dead on Buda Bridge, which leads to a series of violent crimes and strange science that bring mayhem to the dark capital of the European state.
Hmm. I have a feeling that swashbuckling space opera is going to be more my kinda thing...
Temis the Vorta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 9 2012, 03:02 AM   #1414
Gov Kodos
Admiral
 
Gov Kodos's Avatar
 
Location: Gov Kodos Regretably far from Boston
Re: sf/f TV development news - 2012

Temis the Vorta wrote: View Post
Who says HBO doesn't do sci fi?

Michael R. Roskam, who got a Best Foreign-Language Film Oscar nomination last year for his Belgian film Bullhead, is at the center of a new HBO pilot script order, one which teams him with Michael Mann and Breaking Bad executive producer Mark Johnson. HBO has ordered a pilot script for a drama titled Buda Bridge, a Belgian-set crime story that takes place in Brussels in the near future. It unfolds when a woman is found dead on Buda Bridge, which leads to a series of violent crimes and strange science that bring mayhem to the dark capital of the European state.
Hmm. I have a feeling that swashbuckling space opera is going to be more my kinda thing...
Time for an 'Ice Pirates' remake?
__________________
We are quicksilver, a fleeting shadow, a distant sound... our home has no boundaries beyond which we cannot pass. We live in music, in a flash of color... we live on the wind and in the sparkle of a star! Endora, Bewitched
Gov Kodos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 9 2012, 03:05 AM   #1415
Jeff O'Connor
Commodore
 
Jeff O'Connor's Avatar
 
Location: Tampa, FL
View Jeff O'Connor's Twitter Profile Send a message via AIM to Jeff O'Connor Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to Jeff O'Connor
Re: sf/f TV development news - 2012

Masquerading as part of an intergalactic fleet... I wonder how that one will be played. Hopefully not primarily for laughs, but I'll take what I can get, and who knows, maybe it will be funny.

I'm tempering my expectations as best as possible.
__________________
Star Trek
1966-
Jeff O'Connor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 9 2012, 03:45 AM   #1416
sojourner
Admiral
 
sojourner's Avatar
 
Location: I'm at WKRP
Re: sf/f TV development news - 2012

Jeff O'Connor wrote: View Post
Masquerading as part of an intergalactic fleet... I wonder how that one will be played.
I read a series of short stories some years ago with the same premise. In the end the mercenary team ended up being drafted into the intergalactic fleet thus validating everything they did.
__________________
Baby, you and me were never meant to be, just maybe think of me once in a while...
sojourner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 9 2012, 04:08 AM   #1417
Caliburn24
Commodore
 
Location: Gig Harbor, Washington
Re: sf/f TV development news - 2012

Never heard of this Todd Stashwick guy, so I looked him up. As an actor he has been in a great many shows including Enterprise, but as a writer/producer he doesn't seem to have done anything besides a few comics. I can't imagine SyFy making him a showrunner with so limited experience.

His twitter has some interesting tidbits. Apparently the logline from Deadline made Clandestine sound more like Firefly than it really is.
Caliburn24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 9 2012, 09:32 AM   #1418
RJDonner&Blitzen
Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion
 
RJDonner&Blitzen's Avatar
 
Location: RJDiogenes of Boston
Re: sf/f TV development news - 2012

sojourner wrote: View Post
Even the great artists steal/are influenced by previous artists. Especially in fiction. There is no plot that hasn't been used before.
Influenced, yes. Steal, no.

That's two Space Operas that Sciffy is working on. Hopefully at least one of them makes it (I'm rooting for RHW, of course, but it would be nice if they both survive).
__________________
Please stop by my Gallery and YouTube Page for a visit. And read Trunkards! And check out my Heroes essays.
RJDonner&Blitzen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 9 2012, 09:45 AM   #1419
Cookies and Cake
Admiral
 
Location: North America
Re: sf/f TV development news - 2012

RJDiogenes wrote: View Post
sojourner wrote: View Post
Even the great artists steal/are influenced by previous artists. Especially in fiction. There is no plot that hasn't been used before.
Influenced, yes. Steal, no.
I really must see The Hidden Fortress someday.
__________________
CorporalCaptain
Cookies and Cake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 9 2012, 03:58 PM   #1420
stj
Rear Admiral
 
stj's Avatar
 
Location: the real world
Re: sf/f TV development news - 2012

Robert Hewitt Wolfe has a co-executive producer credit on Alphas. Is this just a golden parachute-type formality and he's already been kicked out (along with Ira Steven Behr?) Or is he planning on leaving Alphas if his series gets picked up?

The notion of space as so friendly an environment people can just wander about ad lib doesn't seem very promising. Actually, the notion that people can just sneak into an army at all seems more like something borrowed from old movies rather than a real idea.
__________________
The people of this country need regime change here, not abroad.
stj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 9 2012, 04:12 PM   #1421
Sindatur
Vice Admiral
 
Sindatur's Avatar
 
Location: Sacramento, CA
Re: sf/f TV development news - 2012

stj wrote: View Post
The notion of space as so friendly an environment people can just wander about ad lib doesn't seem very promising. Actually, the notion that people can just sneak into an army at all seems more like something borrowed from old movies rather than a real idea.
If that's what the article means, yea, that doesn't sounds very promising at first sight. I took it to mean instead that when they run into other folks at outposts or whatever they claim to part of a real armada, rather than actually sneaking into formation with the armada.
__________________
One Day I hope to be the Man my Cat thinks I am

Where are we going? And why are we in this Handbasket?
Sindatur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 9 2012, 04:37 PM   #1422
xortex
Commodore
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
Re: sf/f TV development news - 2012

Does anybody have a definition of intellectual property? Would it's theft just be constituted by using an idea's specific expression, and not the idea itself? Plots and premises can't be stolen? as there are no new plots or premises? that seems awefully short sighted to me. Harlan had a good case against 'In time' but not 'Terminator' it seems to me. Was 'All Good Things' a homage or a rip off of Vonnegut's 'Slaughter House Five'? Beethoven used the same melody for one of his most popular overtures as a Mozart violin concerto. Obviously everyone's expression is going to be different. The same ideas can be done from different angles and perspectives and directions/approaches just as some trek ideas were done over and over again from head to tail as it were but where does derivitive rights end and stealing begin?
xortex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 9 2012, 08:11 PM   #1423
Kegg
Rear Admiral
 
Kegg's Avatar
 
Location: Ireland.
Re: sf/f TV development news - 2012

Temis the Vorta wrote: View Post
Who says HBO doesn't do sci fi? [...] Hmm. I have a feeling that swashbuckling space opera is going to be more my kinda thing...
I dunno. The pedigree of the HBO series is pretty promising and the idea of sci-fi show set in continential Europe (even an American one) is appealing.

Clandestine has a nice enough premise, but I've never heard of the guy involved (unlike RHW's Defender) so it's more of an unknown quantity at this point. I think a space opera series with a sense of fun would be nice, but it needs to be fun and good.
__________________
'Spock is always right, even when he's wrong. It's the tone of voice, the supernatural reasonability; this is not a man like us; this is a god.'
- Philip K. Dick
Kegg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 9 2012, 08:20 PM   #1424
Vendikarr
Rear Admiral
 
Vendikarr's Avatar
 
Location: Vendikarr
Send a message via AIM to Vendikarr
Re: sf/f TV development news - 2012

xortex wrote: View Post
Does anybody have a definition of intellectual property? Would it's theft just be constituted by using an idea's specific expression, and not the idea itself? Plots and premises can't be stolen? as there are no new plots or premises? that seems awefully short sighted to me. Harlan had a good case against 'In time' but not 'Terminator' it seems to me. Was 'All Good Things' a homage or a rip off of Vonnegut's 'Slaughter House Five'? Beethoven used the same melody for one of his most popular overtures as a Mozart violin concerto. Obviously everyone's expression is going to be different. The same ideas can be done from different angles and perspectives and directions/approaches just as some trek ideas were done over and over again from head to tail as it were but where does derivitive rights end and stealing begin?
It's not the plots, but the similarity in details. Yes, you can write a movie about stolen time as a currency, but if too many of your ideas in the script coincide with someone elses story, it will get a closer look. Yes, some things may seem obvious in a certain type of story, but it will not be looked upon favorably if someone got there first.
__________________
"They have to help the viewers let go. Firefly did a movie to wrap things up. Buffy the Vampire Slayer continued on as a comic book. Heroes gradually lowered the quality season by season until we were grateful it ended.” - Sheldon Cooper
Vendikarr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 9 2012, 10:39 PM   #1425
sojourner
Admiral
 
sojourner's Avatar
 
Location: I'm at WKRP
Re: sf/f TV development news - 2012

RJDiogenes wrote: View Post
sojourner wrote: View Post
Even the great artists steal/are influenced by previous artists. Especially in fiction. There is no plot that hasn't been used before.
Influenced, yes. Steal, no.
Incorrect.
__________________
Baby, you and me were never meant to be, just maybe think of me once in a while...
sojourner is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:50 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.