zippers and carpet seams = new revelations in HD on TNG-R

jefferiestubes8 · July 30 2012, 10:15 PM

I remember when TOS-R was released on Blu-ray that there were a few threads about noticeable zippers, “stunt boots”, 5'o clock shadows and all sorts of things that the high definition now made very obvious.

Now for TNG-R let's discuss the tiny items that were on the live-action set and never noticeable on the standard definition masters.
A few have been mentioned already like the stunt doubles' hairpiece & scuff marks on the set floor under the viewscreen.
and as RobertScorpio mentioned:

RobertScorpio wrote:

when you've seen an episode, oh, 100+ times, finding these matt-paintings or zippers or what other tricks they did, is fun...F U N...fun.

What else have you guys noticed on your 2nd or 3rd HD viewing of an episode you've seen dozens of times?

davejames · July 30 2012, 10:35 PM

I'm noticing a lot more splotches and marks on the bridge carpet. Such as when Data falls to the floor in Justice.

And when Data pulls the chinese fingertrap off his finger in Last Outpost, you can clear see that the makeup has come off to reveal his normal skin color.

trekker670 · July 30 2012, 10:44 PM

You can see the top of Transporter Room set in "Sins of the Father" in the scene where Kurn first arrives. You can clearly make out the bare 2x4's above the set.

BillJ · July 30 2012, 10:52 PM

You can see some of the beige paint bubbling above the wood panels in later episodes.

inflatabledalek · July 31 2012, 08:03 AM

Riker frequently looks like he needs a shave and his chest hair is barely contained by his uniform.

R. Star · July 31 2012, 08:19 AM

inflatabledalek wrote:

Riker frequently looks like he needs a shave and his chest hair is barely contained by his uniform.

Your powers of observation are excellent, sir. Though those chest hairs become belly hairs by season 7.

Indysolo · July 31 2012, 08:51 AM

You can see Denise Crosby's mark in The Naked Now when she finds Geordi in the observation room.

Green Shirt · July 31 2012, 02:19 PM

R. Star wrote:

Though those chest hairs become belly hairs by season 7.

I really need to stop eating at the computer.

trekker670 · July 31 2012, 02:32 PM

This was probably noticable in the DVDs, but I noticed for the first time last night when they're doing a closeup on Picard in the Captain's chair, you can see the floor between the tactical station and the aft consoles and you can see a couple of thin (maybe an inch wide) black lines. I first thought they were some sort of cable or something, but after looking closer I believe its a track for the chairs that pull out from under the consoles. I've never noticed that before and had previously assumed they simply had wheels or legs and were taken out like you would any typical dining room chair.

*** Edit ***

Since this thread is more fun with pictures, here's what I was refering to:

Left of the Captain's Chair
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...int_hd_669.jpg

To the right of Picard's head
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...int_hd_657.jpg

Admiral Buzzkill · July 31 2012, 02:43 PM

Yes, those were chair tracks.

Here's a fun thing: for the first couple of seasons the bridge carpet was continuous with the floor of the turbolifts - there was no gap to indicate that the turbolift floor was a separate construction from the bridge floor.

This was pointed out to a TNG artist on either Compuserve or GEnie during the third year of the show, and a dark strip was placed across the floor under the turbolift doors.

trekker670 · July 31 2012, 03:19 PM

I do recall noticing the continuous carpet, but I thought that the strip was added at some point during the first season, in the blooper reel Jonathan Frakes is seen tripping over it IIRC.

trekker670 · July 31 2012, 08:36 PM

This one's debatable, but I think you can see some sort of drapery or perhaps even a reflection of some equipment out the conference room windows. At first I thought it was a reflection in the windows, but it doesn't appear to change with the angle of the camera at all.

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_069.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_070.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_048.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_050.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_047.jpg

BillJ · July 31 2012, 09:44 PM

trekker670 wrote:

This one's debatable, but I think you can see some sort of drapery or perhaps even a reflection of some equipment out the conference room windows. At first I thought it was a reflection in the windows, but it doesn't appear to change with the angle of the camera at all.

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_069.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_070.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_048.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_050.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_047.jpg

Sure that isn't a reflection of the plant sitting back there?

trekker670 · July 31 2012, 09:55 PM

BillJ wrote:

trekker670 wrote:

This one's debatable, but I think you can see some sort of drapery or perhaps even a reflection of some equipment out the conference room windows. At first I thought it was a reflection in the windows, but it doesn't appear to change with the angle of the camera at all.

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_069.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_070.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_048.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_050.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_047.jpg

Sure that isn't a reflection of the plant sitting back there?

Yeah, after looking closely, it's definitely some sort of production equipment, it looks like it could be a light as I can make out some sort of canister supported by metal rigging.

trekker670 · August 8 2012, 02:42 PM

In "When the Bough Breaks" in the opening scene after the main credits you can see Patrick Stewart's mark taped on the floor.

July 30 2012, 10:35 PM	#2
davejames Vice Admiral Location: Sac, Ca	Re: zippers and carpet seams = new revelations in HD on TNG-R I'm noticing a lot more splotches and marks on the bridge carpet. Such as when Data falls to the floor in Justice. And when Data pulls the chinese fingertrap off his finger in Last Outpost, you can clear see that the makeup has come off to reveal his normal skin color.

July 30 2012, 10:44 PM	#3
trekker670 Commander	Re: zippers and carpet seams = new revelations in HD on TNG-R You can see the top of Transporter Room set in "Sins of the Father" in the scene where Kurn first arrives. You can clearly make out the bare 2x4's above the set.

July 30 2012, 10:52 PM	#4
BillJ Vice Admiral Location: Greater Cincinnati	Re: zippers and carpet seams = new revelations in HD on TNG-R You can see some of the beige paint bubbling above the wood panels in later episodes. __________________ Boobies are evil!!!

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July 31 2012, 02:32 PM	#9
trekker670 Commander	Re: zippers and carpet seams = new revelations in HD on TNG-R This was probably noticable in the DVDs, but I noticed for the first time last night when they're doing a closeup on Picard in the Captain's chair, you can see the floor between the tactical station and the aft consoles and you can see a couple of thin (maybe an inch wide) black lines. I first thought they were some sort of cable or something, but after looking closer I believe its a track for the chairs that pull out from under the consoles. I've never noticed that before and had previously assumed they simply had wheels or legs and were taken out like you would any typical dining room chair. * Edit * Since this thread is more fun with pictures, here's what I was refering to: Left of the Captain's Chair http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...int_hd_669.jpg To the right of Picard's head http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...int_hd_657.jpg Last edited by trekker670; July 31 2012 at 08:04 PM.

July 31 2012, 02:43 PM	#10
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: zippers and carpet seams = new revelations in HD on TNG-R Yes, those were chair tracks. Here's a fun thing: for the first couple of seasons the bridge carpet was continuous with the floor of the turbolifts - there was no gap to indicate that the turbolift floor was a separate construction from the bridge floor. This was pointed out to a TNG artist on either Compuserve or GEnie during the third year of the show, and a dark strip was placed across the floor under the turbolift doors. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

July 31 2012, 03:19 PM	#11
trekker670 Commander	Re: zippers and carpet seams = new revelations in HD on TNG-R I do recall noticing the continuous carpet, but I thought that the strip was added at some point during the first season, in the blooper reel Jonathan Frakes is seen tripping over it IIRC.

July 31 2012, 08:36 PM	#12
trekker670 Commander	Re: zippers and carpet seams = new revelations in HD on TNG-R This one's debatable, but I think you can see some sort of drapery or perhaps even a reflection of some equipment out the conference room windows. At first I thought it was a reflection in the windows, but it doesn't appear to change with the angle of the camera at all. http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_069.jpg http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_070.jpg http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_048.jpg http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_050.jpg http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...nor_hd_047.jpg

August 8 2012, 02:42 PM	#15
trekker670 Commander	Re: zippers and carpet seams = new revelations in HD on TNG-R In "When the Bough Breaks" in the opening scene after the main credits you can see Patrick Stewart's mark taped on the floor.