TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) - Page 7

DEWLine · July 31 2012, 02:00 AM

I remember you going to some effort to explain the route past the "local" powers out to the Gum Nebula to begin with in Orion's Hounds. Definitely appreciated, then and now.

j3067 · July 31 2012, 02:36 AM

MatthiasRussell wrote:

Sho wrote:

It just wasn't ever really credible that they they're organized enough for spacefaring, but then you have the Pakled ...

There's an idea- a Pakled crew member on Titan. But then, how about a Horta crew member!?!

You can have a Pakled captain in STO. I wonder if anyone has actually chosen that option?

That is about as crazy as a Mugato in starfleet...hmm, wait a minute...

I'd Like to see the Vidiians revisited in the Voyager series. I'd like to see what became of them after the 'Think Tank' reference. They were like bizarro Borg... 'Your biological likeness will adapt to service us so that we don't melt into goo'

Patrick O'Brien · July 31 2012, 04:09 PM

Got my copy today. I need to catch up on the Titan series before I read it though.

JD · July 31 2012, 05:40 PM

j3067 wrote:

MatthiasRussell wrote:

Sho wrote:

It just wasn't ever really credible that they they're organized enough for spacefaring, but then you have the Pakled ...

There's an idea- a Pakled crew member on Titan. But then, how about a Horta crew member!?!

You can have a Pakled captain in STO. I wonder if anyone has actually chosen that option?

That is about as crazy as a Mugato in starfleet...hmm, wait a minute...

I'd Like to see the Vidiians revisited in the Voyager series. I'd like to see what became of them after the 'Think Tank' reference. They were like bizarro Borg... 'Your biological likeness will adapt to service us so that we don't melt into goo'

This is probably one of the threads I would most like to see picked up in the Trek novels. It was a brief throwaway line, but it's a total game changer for what was briefly a fairly major race in the series.

starri · July 31 2012, 06:40 PM

Well, it was on my Kindle this morning, and I had it finished before noon.

It was definitely an improvement on Seize the Fire, but that's really the only positive thing I can say about it. It wasn't a bad book, per se, but compared to the stuff most of the other authors have been putting out, it can't really hold up.

Between this and StF, I wish an editor would encourage Martin not to indulge in starting the story with the aliens. Frankly, if I hadn't forced myself to get through that first chapter to get to the Titan's crew, I could have set it down and not regretted it later. I might be the only one that feels that way, but I think if someone is going to start the story with a more-or-less unfamiliar alien culture instead of the familiar characters, the writing needs to be extraordinarily strong, and this, IMHO, was not.

Ronald Held · July 31 2012, 07:41 PM

My copy should appear today. I expect to start it by Friday.

Warp Coil · July 31 2012, 08:42 PM

starri wrote:

It was definitely an improvement on Seize the Fire, but that's really the only positive thing I can say about it. It wasn't a bad book, per se, but compared to the stuff most of the other authors have been putting out, it can't really hold up.

I was afraid of that. My copy delivered from Amazon today. Once I finish the book I'm currently reading, I'll dive into this one. I'm glad to hear that it's at least better than Seize the Fire.

starri · August 1 2012, 01:35 AM

Having spent a little time turning over the events in my head, I find myself troubled by one thing.

Thrawn · August 1 2012, 02:25 AM

A third of the way through and... sigh.

Just ONE TIME, I want someone to write a Titan book that demonstrates the characters on the ship having some sort of fun. This series is so damn grim. This is arguably the most interesting crew in the ongoing 24th century novels; give them ONE NOVEL without the weight of some tragedy hanging on them the whole entire time.

You have no idea how happy I'd be if the next Titan book was by KRAD. Is all I'm saying.

CaptainDonovin · August 1 2012, 02:47 AM

Just got mine last night on the kindle, will start it tonight. Ahh, the smell of a brand new ebook..

Paris · August 1 2012, 02:51 PM

Thrawn wrote:

You have no idea how happy I'd be if the next Titan book was by KRAD. Is all I'm saying.

Amen!

Deranged Nasat · August 1 2012, 03:38 PM

Mine just arrived; I'll be starting it as soon as I complete this post.

zarkon · August 1 2012, 03:48 PM

Thrawn wrote:

You have no idea how happy I'd be if the next Titan book was by KRAD. Is all I'm saying.

I'd drink to that

Mage · August 1 2012, 07:00 PM

zarkon wrote:

Thrawn wrote:

You have no idea how happy I'd be if the next Titan book was by KRAD. Is all I'm saying.

I'd drink to that

As would I!!!

DS9forever · August 1 2012, 07:11 PM

I'd love to see Riker team up with Sisko someday.

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July 31 2012, 02:00 AM	#91
DEWLine Captain Location: Ottawa, Canada	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) I remember you going to some effort to explain the route past the "local" powers out to the Gum Nebula to begin with in Orion's Hounds. Definitely appreciated, then and now. __________________ Yours, Dwight Williams Illustrator/Writer

July 31 2012, 04:09 PM	#93
Patrick O'Brien Captain Location: Brooklyn NY	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) Got my copy today. I need to catch up on the Titan series before I read it though. __________________ The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe. -Dr. McCoy, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home

July 31 2012, 06:40 PM	#95
starri Lieutenant Location: Norfolk, VA	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) Well, it was on my Kindle this morning, and I had it finished before noon. It was definitely an improvement on Seize the Fire, but that's really the only positive thing I can say about it. It wasn't a bad book, per se, but compared to the stuff most of the other authors have been putting out, it can't really hold up. Between this and StF, I wish an editor would encourage Martin not to indulge in starting the story with the aliens. Frankly, if I hadn't forced myself to get through that first chapter to get to the Titan's crew, I could have set it down and not regretted it later. I might be the only one that feels that way, but I think if someone is going to start the story with a more-or-less unfamiliar alien culture instead of the familiar characters, the writing needs to be extraordinarily strong, and this, IMHO, was not.

July 31 2012, 07:41 PM	#96
Ronald Held Rear Admiral Location: On the USS Sovereign	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) My copy should appear today. I expect to start it by Friday.

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August 1 2012, 01:35 AM	#98
starri Lieutenant Location: Norfolk, VA	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) Having spent a little time turning over the events in my head, I find myself troubled by one thing. Perhaps I'm just being too "pie in the sky" about it, but even given everything the Federation has been through post-Destiny, I could never, EVER believe that the higher ups would force any Andorian who chose to stay to stay out of his/her job. Especially since, given that I believe this takes place prior to Plagues of Night/Raise the Dawn, there isn't any actual threat. And certainly I don't think anyone would expect any captain to just blithely enforce the order. I get the parellel Martin is going for, especially since it's spelled out overtly in the text, but I just can't buy that as something that the touchy-feely Federation we all know and love would do that. Last edited by starri; August 1 2012 at 01:40 AM. Reason: Grammar

August 1 2012, 02:25 AM	#99
Thrawn Commodore Location: Washington, DC	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) A third of the way through and... sigh. You'll never guess. Riker has made an inadvertent mistake, and an entire civilization is now going to perish unless he fixes it. AND he has to make tricky moral decisions about the Prime Directive and the complications that arise from his diverse crew. Just ONE TIME, I want someone to write a Titan book that demonstrates the characters on the ship having some sort of fun. This series is so damn grim. This is arguably the most interesting crew in the ongoing 24th century novels; give them ONE NOVEL without the weight of some tragedy hanging on them the whole entire time. You have no idea how happy I'd be if the next Titan book was by KRAD. Is all I'm saying. __________________ The Almighty Star Trek Lit-Verse Reading Order Flowchart - be confused no longer about what to read next, or what to read first. 12/5/12: Now brilliantly updated by 8of5!

August 1 2012, 02:47 AM	#100
CaptainDonovin Fleet Captain Location: Minnesota	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) Just got mine last night on the kindle, will start it tonight. Ahh, the smell of a brand new ebook.. __________________ Long live DS9!

August 1 2012, 03:38 PM	#102
Deranged Nasat Vice Admiral Location: Warped off into the sunset. With fond memories of most of you, and not a little sorrow at leaving.	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) Mine just arrived; I'll be starting it as soon as I complete this post. __________________ We are all the sum of our tears. Too little and the ground is not fertile and nothing can grow there; too much, the best of us is washed away.

August 1 2012, 07:11 PM	#105
DS9forever Captain	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) I'd love to see Riker team up with Sisko someday.