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View Poll Results: How do you rate "The Dark Knight Rises"?
Excellent 147 58.33%
Good 61 24.21%
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Old July 29 2012, 09:24 PM   #676
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Re: "The Dark Knight Rises" Review and Discussion Thread (spoilers)

Given how many interpretations of Batman and Bruce Wayne there have been in the comics (far exceeding the differences seen in film) there are lots of ways the Nolanverse could be continued or the franchise relaunched.
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Old July 29 2012, 09:39 PM   #677
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Isn't a reboot already being planned? Thought I read something about that a while back.
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Old July 29 2012, 09:40 PM   #678
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A reboot is always being planned.
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Old July 29 2012, 09:56 PM   #679
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Isn't a reboot already being planned? Thought I read something about that a while back.
At this point I think it's most probably a likelihood without anything yet being discussed or established. For now they're just going to watch the money coming in.
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Old July 30 2012, 01:36 AM   #680
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The fact that Bruce Wayne has an arc in this trilogy in no way prevents him from being gifted an entirely different arc in a new trilogy. I don't doubt that the comic has had a number of Bruce Wayne retires and return plots to work with.

I just feel that given the decades of stories featuring the character I'm sure that there is more than enough inspiration for some more movies.
The comics continue in perpetuity out of necessity. These is Nolan's trilogy. The WB isn't going to continue his story if he doesn't want them to, because Nolan's a mega-valued creator whose future films the WB will undoubtedly want him to produce with them. That's why Nolan was allowed to give his take on the character such a definitive ending in the first place.

Beyond which, without Nolan, Bale, etc., there's no real value to continuing with Nolan's world. All that will do is tick off some people.
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Old July 30 2012, 02:00 AM   #681
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Another route, and no one's discussed this, would be to treat the series like the Bond films. Bale and Nolan are done? Fine. Replace them but continue the continuity of the films.
That's not like the Bond films. The Bond series has no overarching story or character arcs.
What? There's a definite SPECTRE plot arc across the first seven films, spanning two actors, and Diamonds are Forever begins with Connery-Bond avenging the death of Lazenby-Bond's wife in the previous film. I don't know which Bond movies you've seen, but the Bond movies I've seen have story and character arcs across films and actors.
Bond's wife Tracy was alluded also alluded to in The Spy Who Loved Me and Bond visited her grave in the opening sequnce of For Your Eyes Only.
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Old July 30 2012, 04:16 PM   #682
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Something I forgot to ask... Bane hooked up that scientist for some sort of blood transfusion while they were in the plane. What was that all about?
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Old July 30 2012, 04:36 PM   #683
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Something I forgot to ask... Bane hooked up that scientist for some sort of blood transfusion while they were in the plane. What was that all about?
I think it was so that the recovery crew would find the fake corpse, take a blood sample and conclude that it was the scientist who died.
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Old July 30 2012, 04:57 PM   #684
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Another route, and no one's discussed this, would be to treat the series like the Bond films. Bale and Nolan are done? Fine. Replace them but continue the continuity of the films. The same thing will happen with the Marvel films when the talent (actors and directors) become too expensive.

I don't think either approach would "ruin" the trilogy any more than Bourne Legacy will ruin the Bourne films or Before Watchmen ruins Watchmen. Nolan's three films are still there, and you can watch them whenever you want. Just because someone else picks up the toys and runs with them doesn't harm them.
What exactly is it about this trilogy that you want to be continued? You replace Bale and Nolan, and highly probably Freeman, Caine and Oldman. So what's left of the Nolan trilogy that would make it still better than a fresh reboot?



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Something I forgot to ask... Bane hooked up that scientist for some sort of blood transfusion while they were in the plane. What was that all about?
I think it was so that the recovery crew would find the fake corpse, take a blood sample and conclude that it was the scientist who died.
Not sure if that would actually work, but yes, that was the point of the scene.
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Old July 30 2012, 08:09 PM   #685
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What exactly is it about this trilogy that you want to be continued? You replace Bale and Nolan, and highly probably Freeman, Caine and Oldman. So what's left of the Nolan trilogy that would make it still better than a fresh reboot?
Not having to sit through yet another origin story?
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Old July 30 2012, 08:56 PM   #686
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Not having to sit through yet another origin story?
Leaving aside the fact that you don't have to sit through anything, we apparently don't need origin stories for James Bond or Sherlock Holmes, so I'm sure we don't need one for Batman.
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Old July 30 2012, 09:04 PM   #687
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^I'm guessing that WB will be looking at the reception The Amazing Spider-man has received. While it's done well (if not amazingly well) commercially and critically, the main gripe with it has been 'another origin story so soon?' So while I do expect the next Batman movie to be a reboot, I'm guessing that they'll bypass the origin, perhaps showing it in flashback like, well, Batman (1989).
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Old July 30 2012, 09:17 PM   #688
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You'd still get another origin story even if you kept this thing going, you'd just get a Nightwing origin story...
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Old July 30 2012, 09:24 PM   #689
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This was a Nightwing origin.

The Dark Knight from the title of the movie is not Bruce.

It's Blake.

Bruce fell.

Blake rose.

Rised?
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Old July 30 2012, 10:56 PM   #690
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Not having to sit through yet another origin story?
Leaving aside the fact that you don't have to sit through anything, we apparently don't need origin stories for James Bond or Sherlock Holmes, so I'm sure we don't need one for Batman.
Batman 89 did just fine without doing an origin--other than the brief dream flashback to the Wayne's murder.

And The Incredible Hulk dealt with the origin during the opening credits.
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