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Old July 29 2012, 07:34 PM   #16
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises -- Blake Question (possible spoilers)

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Nolan has stated quite clearly that he has no wish to continue this universe.
He said he was done, but was open to the idea of someone else doing a Catwoman movie, so who knows.
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Old July 29 2012, 07:38 PM   #17
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises -- Blake Question (possible spoilers)

Did you read the rest of my post? The part where I mentioned Warner asking for his blessing? I never once said that anything without him wasn't possible, I said that they would have to seek out his blessing, or the very least ask if he was at all interested, such as the Catwoman spin off comments.
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Old July 29 2012, 07:47 PM   #18
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^ Understood.
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Old July 29 2012, 08:32 PM   #19
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I'm not saying it wouldn't happen, I'm saying that they'd have to seek his blessing first before even considering something beyond.
Why would they have to? He doesn't own the character of Batman or Catwoman.

It may well be good manners to seek his blessing, but with him having opted to move on, I think he has to relinquish any ownership over the characters and setting. He doesn't have a veto over it all. They're WB and DC's characters - Nolan may have done great things with him but once he hands the toys back, that's it, someone else gets to play with them.
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Old July 29 2012, 08:48 PM   #20
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises -- Blake Question (possible spoilers)

To keep the established good working relationship that they have with him if they're going to use his universe. I think it's the least they could do.

Of course they don't have to do anything, the characters and rights belong to them. They could do anything they want with them. With this specific world though I think they'd at very least have to gage his interest. That was my point.
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Old July 29 2012, 08:55 PM   #21
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^I take your point but I don't know that I agree.

I suspect that Nolan, like many creative people, will want to look forwards, not back. He's moved on, he's doing different things, I imagine that he'll not be too concerned either way. It's probably a bit like how Paul Greengrass and Matt Damon have moved on from Bourne and thus don't seem too upset about Tony Gilroy and Universal moving on with The Bourne Legacy.

Purely IMHO, of course, as I claim no insight into the man's thinking!
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Old July 29 2012, 08:58 PM   #22
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Fair enough. I just really don't see this happening at all with the Bat Reboot happening. I still think that is not as far off as some fans think. I personally think turnover will happen in two or three years. I think we can all agree though that whatever does happen, it will be an interesting process
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Old July 29 2012, 09:01 PM   #23
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^ In that we do agree. I think the end of TDKR was meant to show that Batman shall continue but in-universe. I don't really think that Nolan was setting up the future direction of the franchise. I anticipate them going down the Amazing Spider-man route, just not with as explicit an origin story. But yeah, it's going to be interesting.
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Old July 29 2012, 09:04 PM   #24
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Yep. I agree totally about the end of Rises. We see how The Legend Continues. It also goes with the saying "Gotham Will Always need a Batman". It completes Bruce's story, yet also cements his legacy and gives what Gotham continues to need with Blake.
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Old July 29 2012, 09:24 PM   #25
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Again...John Blake was Nolan's homage to Robin. He isn't meant to be Robin.
How do you figure? There've been so many different Robins already, this is just one more variation. John Blake may not be *the* Robin, but he is *a* Robin. With all this 'realism', probably the closest that it's going to get in a universe like this.

That being said, it's definitely a better take on Robin than the one I came up with.

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Old July 29 2012, 09:29 PM   #26
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As I've mentioned already I see John Blake as being akin to Terry McGuiness than any Robin. Terry didn't become a Robin when he discovered who Bruce was or asked to be trained, he became Batman. This is what I think Nolan intended with this character. People can feel free to think he is supposed to be Robin, but that isn't the case IMO.

Your take on Robin wouldn't be so bad actually.
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Old July 29 2012, 10:41 PM   #27
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Well, I had Blake pegged as Robin as soon as he told Bruce that he was an orphan and knew that Bruce was Batman, the cherry on top being that Joseph Gordon-Levitt was physically evoking the traditional depictions of Robin closely enough.

By the end of the film, though, it's clear that his destiny in the Nolanverse is not simply to be Batman's sidekick, but rather to be his successor.
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