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Old July 26 2012, 09:40 PM   #181
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^ Alright, I'll trust your well-informedness .
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Old July 26 2012, 09:48 PM   #182
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are the audio problems only on the 7.1 setting? Will you have the same issues on 5.1? I wonder if it is worth while to open up a new thread informing people on any new info coming out from CBS regarding fixes/replacement disks.
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Old July 26 2012, 09:50 PM   #183
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I was wondering if anyone else might notice that!
I checked this last night and my set says disc 4 and the menu says disc four. Am I seeing something wrong?
Somewhat poorly expressed - the volume label in the software, if you like, states "STAR TREK TNG S1 D5". The physical disc, of course states "disc four". You're not going to see the volume label unless you play the disc on your PC.
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I was wondering if anyone else might notice that!
I checked this last night and my set says disc 4 and the menu says disc four. Am I seeing something wrong?
My disc 4 identifies itself as "STAR TREK TNG S1 D5" on my PC. FYI, the folders have a date/time stamp of 5/29/2012 1:32 PM.

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LastRideOut and Asbo beat me to it!
Oh, ok. I don't have a Blu-Ray enabled PC (Even though could I get an adaptor to make my PC Blu-Ray compatible) so that's why I didn't notice it. I thought you guys were talking about the physical disc. Thanks for the clarification.
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Old July 26 2012, 09:53 PM   #184
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Right now I am almost done OCR'ing the .sup files from all the episodes into .srt files. Once that's done, I'll upload the entire set of .srt files onto subscene.com so that no one else has to spend hours OCR'ing the subtitles like I've been doing.

EDIT: The .srt files will be for the 1080p Blu-Ray set, obviously. They are different from the DVD/DIVX .srts found on subscene for TNG S1.
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Old July 26 2012, 09:59 PM   #185
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Yay, my season one box set was finally delivered and I've already watched "The Naked Now" and "Code of Honor". I don't know if anyone has mentioned this before, but there are two suspiciously SD-looking sequences in the latter episode. One where Yar and Lutan are entering the holodeck (which, I guess, is just the result of a digital zoom into the original negative, that was also done one the original cut of the episode), and the other later on the planet, in an establishing shot of the festivities Logan has going for Picard. The image looks VERY pixelated and you can see horizontal lines. Is this also upconverted footage?
The first shot of Picard is standing in front of the viewscreen addressing the crew looks very soft as well from Lonely Among Us.

I noticed that all the shots with people in front of green screen windows looked like the had been upconverted from SD tape. Just take a look at Singh in the briefing room; you can't even make out his face, and it's a close-up.

But I've got too wonder why CBS wasn't doing this in a K transfer and the down-ressing to 1080 for the final master. It would've given us a better picture and even allowed them to do a 16:9 presentation without getting soft.
I don't see the same problem you're seeing with that shot of Singh in the briefing room... I can see his face perfectly.

And CBS is using a Spirit DataCine film scanner, which always scans the film initially at 4K, holds that image in the frame buffer and can down-res on the fly to whatever resolution is needed... in this case, 2K.
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Old July 26 2012, 10:01 PM   #186
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are the audio problems only on the 7.1 setting? Will you have the same issues on 5.1?
Yes, because the problem is with the left, center and right channels, which is also used in 5.1, of course.
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Old July 26 2012, 10:07 PM   #187
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And CBS is using a Spirit DataCine film scanner, which always scans the film initially at 4K, holds that image in the frame buffer and can down-res on the fly to whatever resolution is needed... in this case, 2K.
For clarification, as you seem to be the resident expert on this, did CBS edit this in 4K, using the full resolution of the scanner, or did they down-convert it before the editing process? I think the root of the question is, has the work been done if they choose to release a 4K version or would they have to go through this process again? I would tend to believe CBS would future-proof this as much as possible to save money and time.
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Old July 26 2012, 10:15 PM   #188
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And CBS is using a Spirit DataCine film scanner, which always scans the film initially at 4K, holds that image in the frame buffer and can down-res on the fly to whatever resolution is needed... in this case, 2K.
For clarification, as you seem to be the resident expert on this, did CBS edit this in 4K, using the full resolution of the scanner, or did they down-convert it before the editing process? I think the root of the question is, has the work been done if they choose to release a 4K version or would they have to go through this process again? I would tend to believe CBS would future-proof this as much as possible to save money and time.
TNG-R is being mastered in 2K. 4K post is virtually non-existent in the TV world, even now. Even many films don't go through a full 4K post process. For instance, Prometheus was completed in 2K (stereoscopic) to avoid inflating the post-production budget by a factor of four (4K is four times the resolution of 2K, so four times the cost!).
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Old July 26 2012, 10:36 PM   #189
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are the audio problems only on the 7.1 setting? Will you have the same issues on 5.1?
Yes, because the problem is with the left, center and right channels, which is also used in 5.1, of course.
Whilst it undoubtedly proves to be a point of frustration for those who appreciate the audio more, I don't particularly have much of a problem with the episodes where the vocal track comes through the centre, and FL & FR speakers. It's balanced at least. EaF however, just sounds weird with nothing coming through the FL to balance out the FR.
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Old July 26 2012, 10:47 PM   #190
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Just watched Code of Honor. Again, the remastering on this episode is superb. The audio is quite good as well. The sound of the spectators beating those sticks together is nicely audible from the aft speakers. Hope the audio mixes will become more active as the seasons progress.
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Old July 26 2012, 11:25 PM   #191
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I've noticed something as well I'm upto episode lonely among us and I've noticed a couple of times radom black squares that appear on the bridge consoles behind tasha/worf shoe horn security console.?? As anybody else noticed these ???
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Old July 26 2012, 11:31 PM   #192
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^ They are pieces of cardboard they used to place on the set especially in the early seasons to hide reflections of the film crew and equipment. They reduced the use of them as they got smarter about how to film the sets.
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Old July 26 2012, 11:40 PM   #193
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^ They are pieces of cardboard they used to place on the set especially in the early seasons to hide reflections of the film crew and equipment. They reduced the use of them as they got smarter about how to film the sets.
No way I didn't see them before !!! must be the HD magic !!!
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I just was playing "Haven" and the audio is awful. Again, this is just on TV speakers, but everyone sounds like high pitched robots. It's a shame there wasn't any quote in the episode "By Your Command" because they really do sound like the old Battlestar Galactica Cylons. I hope there is a recall soon because I have 30 days to return the set to Best Buy and I'm thinking about doing just that.
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^ They are pieces of cardboard they used to place on the set especially in the early seasons to hide reflections of the film crew and equipment. They reduced the use of them as they got smarter about how to film the sets.
Interesting. Thanks for the explanation SHo
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