Season ONE OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread - Page 5

cbspock · July 25 2012, 03:29 PM

I guess there were no quality control checks before the sets were mass produced.

-Chris

cbspock · July 25 2012, 03:31 PM

Kamdan wrote:

There's audio problems with the Star Trek TOS Blu-rays. Why don't they fix them too while they're at it with this set?

Really???? I have watched them a couple of times, never noticed

-Chris

trekker670 · July 25 2012, 03:46 PM

BillJ wrote:

trekker670 wrote:

I highly doubt these review sites went through all 26 episodes plus all the bonus materials scrutinizing every detail as we fans are in the process of doing. This is their job and they wont spend the better part of a week (8 hours per day, ~26 hours of material) on a single review that may earn the a few dollars in ad revenue. I can't say I blame them for missing the details since the major issues are in EaF and then mixed sporadically throughout the season.

Then they should've put a disclaimer at the beginning of their reviews stating they didn't actually watch the set. They damage their credibility by just parroting talking points from CBS.

I didn't say they just repeated the press release, I'm sure they did watch parts of the show, but it's just not feasible that they would watch an entire season of a tv show for a review of a show that's been out 25 years. All they needed was to watch a sample to review the updates and enhancements. Given that these problems are only in a handful of episodes, it's quite possible they just didn't encounter them.

Grant · July 25 2012, 03:48 PM

Handful= 7 episodes? 3 discs will need replacing.

BillJ · July 25 2012, 03:52 PM

trekker670 wrote:

BillJ wrote:

trekker670 wrote:

I highly doubt these review sites went through all 26 episodes plus all the bonus materials scrutinizing every detail as we fans are in the process of doing. This is their job and they wont spend the better part of a week (8 hours per day, ~26 hours of material) on a single review that may earn the a few dollars in ad revenue. I can't say I blame them for missing the details since the major issues are in EaF and then mixed sporadically throughout the season.

Then they should've put a disclaimer at the beginning of their reviews stating they didn't actually watch the set. They damage their credibility by just parroting talking points from CBS.

I didn't say they just repeated the press release, I'm sure they did watch parts of the show, but it's just not feasible that they would watch an entire season of a tv show for a review of a show that's been out 25 years. All they needed was to watch a sample to review the updates and enhancements. Given that these problems are only in a handful of episodes, it's quite possible they just didn't encounter them.

From The Digital Bits review:

Having now seen six complete episodes of the first season (and sampled the rest), everything I said before still stands.

***

The issues with Haven are right at the beginning of the episode and are impossible to miss.

trekker670 · July 25 2012, 04:06 PM

Grant wrote:

Handful= 7 episodes? 3 discs will need replacing.

Yes, a handful is normally defined as a small quantity, more than a few but less than several, usually between 5-8, when not discussing a more specific measurement (such as a handful of peanuts).

Haven could simply be one they didn't watch, it is one of the weaker episodes of the season.

I'm not justifying that this slipped through, merely trying to point out that it's not completely unreasonable given the large amount of material they were provided with and the need to post reviews quickly for them to make money off ads. Not as many people will read a given review if another site has had one posted for a week and a majority of the audience has already gotten the information they require.

Maxwell Everett · July 25 2012, 04:07 PM

BillJ wrote:

The issues with Haven are right at the beginning of the episode and are impossible to miss.

What are you hearing, specifically? I don't hear a problem (an echo) until about 27:27 into the episode... when Troi meets Riker on the holodeck. You're watching on a 7.1 system, correct?

BillJ · July 25 2012, 04:09 PM

BillJ wrote:

Audio on Haven is totally screwed-up, first two minutes everyone sounds like they're talking through a tin can.

EDIT: Apologies for the triple-post, just putting them out there as I'm watching the episodes.

In the same episode the audio in the holodeck scene between Riker and Troi seems to be pitched to high.

The audio in Haven is just a mess.

Maxwell Everett wrote:

BillJ wrote:

The issues with Haven are right at the beginning of the episode and are impossible to miss.

What are you hearing, specifically? I don't hear a problem (an echo) until about 27:27 into the episode... when Troi meets Riker on the holodeck. You're watching on a 7.1 system, correct?

I'm actually watching upstairs on my 32" with the stereo track.

Warp Coil · July 25 2012, 04:11 PM

I'm not watching the set in order, just skipping around to watch my favorites. I just finished watching "11001001" and the audio sounds.... tinny? Just.... off. It's pretty much throughout the entire episode.

BillJ · July 25 2012, 04:14 PM

Maxwell Everett wrote:

BillJ wrote:

The issues with Haven are right at the beginning of the episode and are impossible to miss.

What are you hearing, specifically? I don't hear a problem (an echo) until about 27:27 into the episode... when Troi meets Riker on the holodeck. You're watching on a 7.1 system, correct?

When I switch back to the 7.1 track it makes it worse. Audio effects are fine, just the voices sound like there coming through a tin can.

Maxwell Everett · July 25 2012, 04:21 PM

BillJ wrote:

Maxwell Everett wrote:

BillJ wrote:

The issues with Haven are right at the beginning of the episode and are impossible to miss.

What are you hearing, specifically? I don't hear a problem (an echo) until about 27:27 into the episode... when Troi meets Riker on the holodeck. You're watching on a 7.1 system, correct?

When I switch back to the 7.1 track it makes it worse. Audio effects are fine, just the voices sound like there coming through a tin can.

Hmm... must be an artifact of watching it downmixed to 2.0 on your 32". The duplicated dialogue on the left and right channels doesn't adversely affect the episode for me until the scene I mentioned. I'm pretty sure if they get rid of the dialogue on those tracks (on each affected episode), everything will go back to normal for everyone -- on the 7.1 mixes, anyway.

Start Wreck · July 25 2012, 04:33 PM

So, the stereo mixes should be okay?

I don't have a surround sound setup, nor am I likely to for the forseeable future. Still, this issue is concerning.

Maxwell Everett · July 25 2012, 04:44 PM

Start Wreck wrote:

So, the stereo mixes should be okay?

I don't have a surround sound setup, nor am I likely to for the forseeable future. Still, this issue is concerning.

It has fewer problems. It's out of sync on "Farpoint", though... according to some -- haven't had the time to check myself.

davejames · July 25 2012, 05:02 PM

I don't have a super fancy 7.1 system or anything, but I did watch a bit of Farpoint again and noticed Picard's captain's log entries were for some reason really echoey and concentrated only in the front, which was odd and which I don't remember from the sampler.

But the rest of the dialogue sounded fine to me.

The Naked Now looked and sounded great though. I thought I was used to the HD picture already, but the way these colors pop off the screen still completely blows my mind. After all these years, it's just SO damn weird to see the show and characters in such sharp detail.

The fact it looks like it was shot yesterday... but still has the cheesy storytelling and dated hairstyles of the 80s, is just very odd and is going to take some getting used to, I think.

BTW, whatever happened to that goofy asian engineer Shimodo? He would have been fun to keep around!

bullethead · July 25 2012, 05:13 PM

davejames wrote:

BTW, whatever happened to that goofy asian engineer Shimodo? He would have been fun to keep around!

Picard fired his ass for letting Wesley take over the ship

July 25 2012, 03:29 PM	#61
cbspock Rear Admiral Location: San Antonio, TX	Re: The OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Season 1 Discussion Thread I guess there were no quality control checks before the sets were mass produced. -Chris __________________ Shania's Place "It's important to give it all you have while you have the chance."-Shania

July 25 2012, 03:48 PM	#64
Grant Fleet Captain	Re: The OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Season 1 Discussion Thread Handful= 7 episodes? 3 discs will need replacing.

July 25 2012, 04:11 PM	#69
Warp Coil Rear Admiral Location: MD, USA	Re: The OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Season 1 Discussion Thread I'm not watching the set in order, just skipping around to watch my favorites. I just finished watching "11001001" and the audio sounds.... tinny? Just.... off. It's pretty much throughout the entire episode. __________________ "I managed to find Uno and Checkers, and also parts of Battleship and most of the pieces of Candy Land, which I figure, I can mix together to create a fabulous new game, CandyShipBattleLand. War never tasted so good." - Lorelai Gilmore

July 25 2012, 04:33 PM	#72
Start Wreck Fleet Captain	Re: The OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Season 1 Discussion Thread So, the stereo mixes should be okay? I don't have a surround sound setup, nor am I likely to for the forseeable future. Still, this issue is concerning. __________________ Fallen Star - My home-made sci-fi TV show Start Wreck - My Star Trek spoof web comic Doctor Who From The Start - A n00b does a blog

July 25 2012, 05:02 PM	#74
davejames Vice Admiral Location: Sac, Ca	Re: The OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Season 1 Discussion Thread I don't have a super fancy 7.1 system or anything, but I did watch a bit of Farpoint again and noticed Picard's captain's log entries were for some reason really echoey and concentrated only in the front, which was odd and which I don't remember from the sampler. But the rest of the dialogue sounded fine to me. The Naked Now looked and sounded great though. I thought I was used to the HD picture already, but the way these colors pop off the screen still completely blows my mind. After all these years, it's just SO damn weird to see the show and characters in such sharp detail. The fact it looks like it was shot yesterday... but still has the cheesy storytelling and dated hairstyles of the 80s, is just very odd and is going to take some getting used to, I think. BTW, whatever happened to that goofy asian engineer Shimodo? He would have been fun to keep around!

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