"The Dark Knight Rises" Review and Discussion Thread (spoilers)

[davejames]

sojourner wrote:

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I think most of the "it's a dream" view comes from how the scene was filmed. It had a certain dreamlike quality.

Well that and the sheer implausibility of him surviving a nuclear blast at that close a range.

Like me, I imagine most people during that final scene were thinking "wait, exactly how did he survive that again?"

[Warped9]

If Bruce fixed the autopilot who's to say he didn't eject before the Bat crossed out over the bay? When the Bat is seen flying over the bridge Bruce might already have bailed among the canyon of buildings.

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Warped9 wrote:

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If Bruce fixed the autopilot who's to say he didn't eject before the Bat crossed out over the bay? When the Bat is seen flying over the bridge Bruce might already have bailed among the canyon of buildings.

I'd have to watch it again. We'd have to know the very last moment Nolan cut to a shot of Wayne in the cockpit

[Guartho]

Mage wrote:

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You know, we were talking after the movie..... A lot of people must be very deaf. Since no one I spoke to had any issues whatsoever understanding Bane. Is this just a haters gonna hate thing, or do most theaters have crappy sound installations or something?

I think my theater had crappy sound. Could be as simple as well meaning teenage theater employees going "Hurr durr, turn the bass up. That'll be aw3som3!" You know, because kids talk in leet speak these days.

[Donald Draper]

He was prepared!

Its a cliche I don't like but I used it.

There is an interesting dichotomy at work with this film. Fans always say they prefer Batman over actual super powered heroes. Because he is human. But even a man at the height of human physical perfection could never do what Batman does for a long time. While Batman retiring has been criticized, its acknowleding his humanity. Which is a huge part of his appeal.

But another part of his appeal is that he can survive anything. That has been true of most versions of the characters. Even if it pushes the realm of plausibility and this human hero basically is superhuman. Well the movie is being true to the character! I like that for this finale Nolan really embraced the more fantastic comic elements.

[Guartho]

When Batman ramps the car carrier and escapes the horde of cop cars and Foley asks on the radio "How did he escape?" Was I the only one who really really really wanted to hear over the radio "What are you dense? What are you retarded? He's the god damned Batman!" or at least "He's the god damned Batman!"

[Guartho]

Donald Draper wrote:

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He was prepared!

Its a cliche I don't like but I used it.

Bane's fatal mistake was locking Bruce Wayne up with nothing but time.

[tighr]

Flying Spaghetti Monster wrote:

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I'd have to watch it again. We'd have to know the very last moment Nolan cut to a shot of Wayne in the cockpit

We saw BATMAN in the cockpit, but was it WAYNE?

[Warped9]

Guartho wrote:

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When Batman ramps the car carrier and escapes the horde of cop cars and Foley asks on the radio "How did he escape?" Was I the only one who really really really wanted to hear over the radio "What are you dense? What are you retarded? He's the god damned Batman!" or at least "He's the god damned Batman!"

I liked the sense I got that most of the rank-and-file regular cops didn't seem to buy the bogus story about Batman being a murderer and having killed Harvey Dent and the others. Blake and the kids we saw really got this across.

[davejames]

Flying Spaghetti Monster wrote:

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I'd have to watch it again. We'd have to know the very last moment Nolan cut to a shot of Wayne in the cockpit

We see that closeup shot of him staring at the sun right before the bomb goes off, and he's clearly still in The Bat.

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

davejames wrote:

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We see that closeup shot of him staring at the sun right before the bomb goes off, and he's clearly still in The Bat.

Okay, so he didn't abandon the Bat while in Gotham. He had to jump into the water

[Agent Richard07]

"You're in for a real show kid!" ... or something to that effect, says the older cop to the rookie. Another homage to The Dark Knight Returns.

[Donald Draper]

So is this going to become the new "Nuke the Fridge"?

[Guartho]

davejames wrote:

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We see that closeup shot of him staring at the sun right before the bomb goes off, and he's clearly still in The Bat.

I don't know... Lucius Fox has demonstrated before that he likes to design things with ejection systems that are vehicles in and of themselves. Catwoman was zipping around on part of the original Tumbler a full 8 years after it was destroyed.



We saw Batman in the cockpit. We did not see the cockpit in the Bat. (Or did we? I was not watching for details like that last night).

[Samurai8472]

Mild spoiler






Some day's you just can't get rid of a bomb!