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Old July 23 2012, 03:31 PM   #4636
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Which is exactly my point. What is he playing as if there is no Superman figure for him to imitate? In a world without superheroes with capes, where do the kids get the idea?
Probably the same place Siegel and Shuster got the idea. Superman's costume wasn't pulled out of the ether, it was based on the costumes that circus strongmen wore in the 1930s. Maybe in a world where that look didn't become associated with superheroes, it continued to be associated with circus performers. For that matter, Evel Knievel wore a cape during his career as a daredevil/stuntman, so even in real life the custom lasted at least until the '70s. Young Clark could've been emulating his favorite daredevil or acrobat or weightlifter.
Plus, maybe Clark was a Zorro fan?

And I seem to recall Flash Gordon sporting a cape occasionally.
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Old July 23 2012, 03:52 PM   #4637
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Which is exactly my point. What is he playing as if there is no Superman figure for him to imitate? In a world without superheroes with capes, where do the kids get the idea?
Probably the same place Siegel and Shuster got the idea. Superman's costume wasn't pulled out of the ether, it was based on the costumes that circus strongmen wore in the 1930s. Maybe in a world where that look didn't become associated with superheroes, it continued to be associated with circus performers. For that matter, Evel Knievel wore a cape during his career as a daredevil/stuntman, so even in real life the custom lasted at least until the '70s. Young Clark could've been emulating his favorite daredevil or acrobat or weightlifter.
Of course it depends on when the movie is set, but Clark might've watched reruns of the Greatest American Hero on television as a kid.
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Old July 23 2012, 05:05 PM   #4638
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Plus, maybe Clark was a Zorro fan?
Kids don't imitate Zorro by putting on a cape.
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Old July 23 2012, 05:23 PM   #4639
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I'd want Superman/Clark Kent to be a very wise, enlightened being, conscious, confident, a role model for everyone, because of his origin, and because Ma and Pa Kent are wonderful parents. He isn't prejudiced or jealous, and when he fights criminals he never kills (but then again, that's also Batman's thing), and he doesn't take justice into his own hands. But it seems that the film again goes for the "I don't know who I am, I don't know what I want" angle.

Superman Returns had him being depressive and jealous, I never liked that.
I think there's a way to show Clark searching for meaning and purpose in his life without him becoming "depressive." It's only natural that a guy in his position would be uncertain what to do with the powers he has, or be shaken by the knowledge that he isn't human, or be concerned with frightening the world with his abilities.

It makes him seem a whole lot more REAL than if he puts on the costume and just automatically becomes this "wise, enlightened role model and shining light to all mankind". He'll obviously become that, but I think we need to see the natural progression to it.
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Old July 23 2012, 05:29 PM   #4640
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Plus, maybe Clark was a Zorro fan?
Kids don't imitate Zorro by putting on a cape.
I'm sure kids did back in the day.

In fact I used to run around in a black cape for a time when I was a kid.... although I was probably just emulating The Greatest American Hero and not Zorro.
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Old July 23 2012, 05:31 PM   #4641
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Here's a better quality version of the extended comic con trailer for those who missed it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DoW5...ayer_embedded#!
Ok wow, THAT trailer is amazing. It's almostw a whole year away so I understand why they're not putting this in theaters for the general public, but I hope they do down the road, because that completely sold me on the movie.
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Old July 23 2012, 06:29 PM   #4642
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It would be a shame if we don't at least see a version of that trailer in the future. It's hard to imagine one that could be more powerful and effective.
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Old July 23 2012, 08:09 PM   #4643
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Here's a better quality version of the extended comic con trailer for those who missed it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DoW5...ayer_embedded#!
Ok wow, THAT trailer is amazing. It's almostw a whole year away so I understand why they're not putting this in theaters for the general public, but I hope they do down the road, because that completely sold me on the movie.
I liked the teaser trailer, but WOW that is even better!! I have always been juiced for this movie and now I am even more juiced than ever!!
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Old July 23 2012, 08:26 PM   #4644
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I suspect the next trailer will contain elements from the comic con trailer along with new footage. The brief shot of Zod gave me chills.
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Old July 23 2012, 08:32 PM   #4645
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Here's a better quality version of the extended comic con trailer for those who missed it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DoW5...yer_embedded#!
That looks amazing. I like the cinematic one, but this one completely blows it away, even as a dodgy recording. I can only assume that they'll release something like this for the big screen before too long.
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Old July 23 2012, 09:05 PM   #4646
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I think there's a way to show Clark searching for meaning and purpose in his life without him becoming "depressive." It's only natural that a guy in his position would be uncertain what to do with the powers he has, or be shaken by the knowledge that he isn't human, or be concerned with frightening the world with his abilities.
Yeah, anybody who doesn't have some sort of emotional reaction to discovering that he's an alien--and the last of his species--would have to be a robot, not a superman.
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Old July 23 2012, 09:13 PM   #4647
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I'm sure there is some kind of example of mythology in "Man of Steel" that Clark would be motivated enough to be playing hero in a cape. Besides which I don't think it really matters. The shot is designed as a nod to US the audience who did play Superman as kids (I did anyway) and to obviously foreshadow Clark becoming Superman. That's what I took away from the shot anyway.
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Old July 23 2012, 09:16 PM   #4648
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Plus, maybe Clark was a Zorro fan?
Kids don't imitate Zorro by putting on a cape.
Ohmigod, Clark wants to be Dracula!
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Old July 23 2012, 09:22 PM   #4649
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^ LOL

I know when I played Zorro I had a towel wrapped around my shoulders and one of those plastic swords! Also I had on a fedora as well...closest thing I could find
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Old July 23 2012, 09:31 PM   #4650
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I only played Zorro when it snowed.
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