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Old July 18 2012, 11:07 PM   #3991
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Love it. Polanski, Towne, and Nicholson at their best. Goldsmith's score is perfect; the cinematography is excellent (it's no surprise that the best lensed Star Trek movie was shot by the same DP). I've never mustered up the courage to see The Two Jakes, though.

It's not a bad movie at all, it's not the masterpiece that Chinatown is of course, but it's entertaining. As a director Jack Nicholson is more craftsman and less artist than Roman Polanski but his performance is a lot of fun. I'll be damned if I remember what the story was about though...
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Old July 19 2012, 02:50 PM   #3992
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Chinatown and Easy Rider, each in their own way are both excellent, unforgettable movies. Can't speak for Bonnie and Clyde, as I have yet to see it, though I expect the same can be said of it.

Watching Batman Begins & The Dark Knight on DVD today, leaving only The Dark Knight Rises for either Saturday or Sunday afternoon. Won't be that hard to get into a matinee (didn't have any trouble getting in to see The Avengers), especially if I arrive early enough.
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Old July 19 2012, 03:05 PM   #3993
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I don't know about critics being corrupt but I am tired of their "I'm better than you because I flunked out of film school" shtick. Their so called "criticism" is just meaningless...
Writing is meaningful to those who enjoy it, just as movies are, and not to those who don't.

Professional critics get paid to do what they do because they write well enough and know enough about film - not necessarily just those movies or genres that are their particular hobbyhorses - to entertain an audience of sufficient size that their salaries are worthwhile to their employers.

So some people get angry that writers who have earned some following actually get public attention for expressing their opinions? So what?

Of course, if one is a fan who has no particular abilities for which someone will pay but does have a craving for attention one can set up a webcam or something and post lengthy, lame "reviews" to Youtube.

Ebert's review of TDKR looks just about right; he gave it three stars, not as high as TDK which he described as "near perfect."

Beyond which, if you imagine that Nolan's Batman movies will be as highly regarded or remembered thirty years from now as Chinatown then you'll gladly plunk down your money for a bridge I own in New York. Go enjoy the movie; buy the merchandise.

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Old July 19 2012, 05:14 PM   #3994
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Ebert's review of TDKR looks just about right; he gave it three stars, not as high as TDK which he described as "near perfect."
Actually, I just rewatched TDK, and it is far from perfect. As has been noted frequently before - 1) it ends too many times, 2) its first ending (the ferries/ hostage/ cell phone extravaganza) has pacing problems - though is saved somewhat by Joker's gleeful, "and I won't kill you - because you're just too much fun" at its close, and 3) its second ending, while emotionally satisfying, doesn't really make much sense - especially in light of where the story apparently goes in TDKR.

It's interesteing to hear from reviewers that TDKR seems to reverse the trend of Nolan's two earlier Batman films - where the first halves are engrossing and the second halves are muddled with too much going on and somewhat non-sensical motivations are driving things.

I expect from TDKR, though, the same reaction I had to initial viewings of the other two films - pleasurable surprise at Nolan's balls for what he's willing to do within the limited field of the superhero movie genre, frissions of near-depth on social issues (though he, like most people dealing with trying to get at social issues in a story with a wealthy vigilante hero, often find themselves in questionable moral positions - kudos to him though for acknowledging the questionableness of the moraility), some confusion as to how and why people are doing things, and the knowledge that subsequent viewings are not going to match the first one. Batman Begins and The Dark Knight certainly suffer under the weight of familiarity, though both have stunning moments that are generally worth the rewatch. I expect a couple of those out of TDKR too.
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Old July 19 2012, 05:39 PM   #3995
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Ebert's review of TDKR looks just about right; he gave it three stars, not as high as TDK which he described as "near perfect."
If you haven't seen the film, how can you assume Ebert's review is "just about right"? This is just the usual knee-jerk Ebert worship.

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Nice try, but he said: "And there’s discussion out there as to whether or not this was purposeful". Which is typical GOP playbook: ginning up the base with outright ( easily debunked ) lies.
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Old July 20 2012, 01:45 AM   #3996
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I didn't TRY anything, I just pointed out the facts. If this was Rush's idea, then how were there newspaper articles about it BEFORE he ever said anything? Why did Chuck Dixon come out and declare that he himself was a lifelong hardcore right-winger and the idea was ridiculous BEFORE Rush said anything?

Anyway, back on topic, I must say I'm REALLY looking forward to this film and will definitely be sitting in an IMAX tomorrow. Nolan has earned my complete confidence, at this point, with any film he wants to make. Since Batman has ALWAYS been my preferred comic character, this movie is a no-brainer for me.
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Old July 20 2012, 02:33 AM   #3997
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Off to the midnight showing in a little bit! Who else is going to a midnight show?
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I really want to, but there's a decent chance that the Hasbro San Diego Comiccon exclusives will be up for sale online at the wee hours of tomorrow morning. So I have to choose between Batman and sleep...
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Old July 20 2012, 05:03 AM   #3999
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If you haven't seen the film, how can you assume Ebert's review is "just about right"? This is just the usual knee-jerk Ebert worship.
Given some of the comments you've made about the film that you haven't seen I don't think you can really thrown any stones here.
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Old July 20 2012, 05:16 AM   #4000
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I didn't TRY anything, I just pointed out the facts. If this was Rush's idea, then how were there newspaper articles about it BEFORE he ever said anything? Why did Chuck Dixon come out and declare that he himself was a lifelong hardcore right-winger and the idea was ridiculous BEFORE Rush said anything?
Chuck Dixon has a big mouth and is trying to get some of that media attention to sell books.
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Old July 20 2012, 02:51 PM   #4001
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Old July 20 2012, 03:18 PM   #4002
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I didn't TRY anything, I just pointed out the facts. If this was Rush's idea, then how were there newspaper articles about it BEFORE he ever said anything? Why did Chuck Dixon come out and declare that he himself was a lifelong hardcore right-winger and the idea was ridiculous BEFORE Rush said anything?
Chuck Dixon has a big mouth and is trying to get some of that media attention to sell books.
And how exactly does this refute any point I made? He still made the statements before Rush and the overall story was still reported in other places before Rush.

I'm done arguing. It's all off topic anyway.
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Old July 20 2012, 04:24 PM   #4003
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If you haven't seen the film, how can you assume Ebert's review is "just about right"? This is just the usual knee-jerk Ebert worship.
Given some of the comments you've made about the film that you haven't seen I don't think you can really thrown any stones here.
You're hallucinating. What comments have I made about TDKR?
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Old July 21 2012, 03:26 AM   #4004
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This is just the usual knee-jerk Ebert worship.


Sorry; I know my taste and I know what I think.
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Old July 21 2012, 04:52 AM   #4005
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If you haven't seen the film, how can you assume Ebert's review is "just about right"? This is just the usual knee-jerk Ebert worship.
Given some of the comments you've made about the film that you haven't seen I don't think you can really thrown any stones here.
You're hallucinating. What comments have I made about TDKR?
That it's running time was too long for starters.
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