Orci Drops Trek 2 Character Hints

[BillJ]

Devon wrote:

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Look at the next line.

"TrekMovie.com: Nice callback, but are you sticking with your original comment and it isn’t Gary Mitchell. "

The "callback" is Orci parodying a comment Karl Urban made just a few days before when he was asked to follow up with his comment that Cumberbatch plays Mitchell.

See here:

http://trekmovie.com/2012/07/12/urba...batch-comment/

"All I can say is that I did that interview after a 22-hour flight from New Zealand. I literally hopped off the plane into the interview."

Orci then followed up with TM's question and said (verbatim) "I would say that I never lie."

No reason to go further, it's right there.

What reason would Urban have to pull Mitchell out of his ass? And didn't Pegg say it wasn't Khan?

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=60621

Someone's lying somewhere...

[Devon]

BillJ wrote:

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What reason would Urban have to pull Mitchell out of his ass?

To screw with people.

And didn't Pegg say it wasn't Khan?

Yes.

[Balrog]

Gary Seven?

Maybe the other canon character is Roberta Logan.

[ralph]

Caracthers of Alice Eve and Cumberbatch = canon.

My guess.

Eve - Dra. Carol Marcus

Cumberbatch - Garth of Izar

He is starship captain.
He can be younger than the original. After all, this is a diferent time line.

[Nerys Myk]

ralph wrote:

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Caracthers of Alice Eve and Cumberbatch = canon.

My guess.

Eve - Dra. Carol Marcus

Cumberbatch - Garth of Izar

He is starship captain.
He can be younger than the original. After all, this is a diferent time line.

Only characters born after Nero's arrival/Kirk's birth, the point that the timelines split can be different in age. (Chekov). Garth was already a famous Captain when OldKirk was at the Academy. Garth has to be ten to twenty years older than Kirk, probably closer to Pike's age.

[indranee]

Trekkie2 wrote:

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I don't think Cumberbatch is playing Gary Mitchell. He died in the comics. BC's mother reportedly said that he was dressed in leather, head to toe, for much of the movie. I'm hard pressed to think of a TOS character that was dressed all in leather (not hides). BC could be playing an android, but I'm not going with that one either.

I don't think he's playing Khan either, but that isn't saying Khan will not be in the movie. Del Toro was approached for a role that he turned down, but I'm thinking the reason he turned it down (his mistake) was because the dollar amount was not suitable, indicating it was a very short term role. The Khanists will get their Khan so they can stop haranguing the production staff and the rest of us, about it.

As for Eve's role, I don't think it's Dehner. I would love to see Chapel instead of hearing her, this time, but what I don't want to see is her blindly chasing after Spock, only to be rebuffed. Rand is back on the table, how about that.

What I want to see is more strong female characters.

Rand is back on the table?!?! Where did they say that? That's awesome. The two canon characters I, at least, want to see the most are Rand and Chapel.

And, hmm, the whole leather-clad thing could mean Khan, could it not?

[Agent Richard07]

Captain Dago wrote:

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And Alice Eve, who even looks like Sally Kellerman, will be Elizabeth Dehner.

She does, doesn't she?

indranee wrote:

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Rand is back on the table?!?! Where did they say that? That's awesome. The two canon characters I, at least, want to see the most are Rand and Chapel.

Those are the two I wanted to see the most as well. They were a big part of the show, so it would be a shame to see them left out again. Rand appears in the comics and her beehive is a lot smaller. It's more like hair done up in a cone than a big beehive. You could say she's been modernized, but she's still recognizable as Janice Rand.

[TorontoTrekker]

Devon wrote:

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To screw with people.

Also, from what I recall reading, Urban is a fan of the show from way back. I don't know how much of a Trekker Simon Pegg is, but he's also a long-time science fiction fan (actually, "proud flag-waving geek" would be a better description ). So it wouldn't surprise me if either of them were prone to joking around in interviews, pretending to give away information and then pulling back to tease us.

In fact, it wouldn't shock me at all if either of them were reading all the speculation online and laughing at how we're tying ourselves up in knots trying to figure out the identity of the guest characters and the plot of the movie.

[King Daniel Into Darkness]

Here's a thought - STXII is a Trek movie, which means it's all going to be canon. So Bob could be bullshitting us again. They could be original and later he's say, "But of course they're canon, they're characters in a Trek movie"

[Trekkie2]

indranee wrote:

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Rand is back on the table?!?! Where did they say that? That's awesome. The two canon characters I, at least, want to see the most are Rand and Chapel.

And, hmm, the whole leather-clad thing could mean Khan, could it not?

This is a snippet from the article about the interview he gave stating which characters would not be in the movie.

' “All I can say is that when I did that radio interview I had just been doing 22 hours of press. I had just got off a flight from New Zealand…,” said Orci.'

Agent Richard07 wrote:

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I might have missed it, but did Uhura have a slicked back, long ponytail in TOS? Did any of the female characters wear that wierd bun on a stick (which by the way, I hope they lose)?

[Devon]

Trekkie2 wrote:

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This is a snippet from the article about the interview he gave stating which characters would not be in the movie.

' “All I can say is that when I did that radio interview I had just been doing 22 hours of press. I had just got off a flight from New Zealand…,” said Orci.'

I just explained this to you earlier in the thread, in fact it's quoted at the top of the page.

Also Orci has just declared the Comics canon, which he semi-declared a while back anyway, which should take care of the Gary Mitchell speculation once and for all.

[BillJ]

Devon wrote:

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Also Orci has just declared the Comics canon, which he semi-declared a while back anyway, which should take care of the Gary Mitchell speculation once and for all.

Christopher pretty much nails this one on the head over in Trek Lit: only the tie-ins are required to follow that decree, the movies can contradict the "canon" comics any time they like.

But it does bring up great fodder that the movie and Countdown contradict each other and yet are both canon. And so is Nero's 25 year journey to meet V'ger.

I think he was joking about the comics being canon...

[ralph]

Alice Eve as Rand makes sense. I remember now that Eve appeared in a photo dressed in overalls. she works in Starfleet. probably as a crew. I saw a nurse in Star Trek in white clothes.

[Jeff O'Connor]

BillJ wrote:

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Christopher pretty much nails this one on the head over in Trek Lit: only the tie-ins are required to follow that decree, the movies can contradict the "canon" comics any time they like.

But it does bring up great fodder that the movie and Countdown contradict each other and yet are both canon. And so is Nero's 25 year journey to meet V'ger.

I think he was joking about the comics being canon...

I'm not so sure...

http://trekmovie.com/2012/07/17/excl...game-as-canon/

[Trekkie2]

Devon wrote:

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I just explained this to you earlier in the thread, in fact it's quoted at the top of the page.

Also Orci has just declared the Comics canon, which he semi-declared a while back anyway, which should take care of the Gary Mitchell speculation once and for all.

What? I was addressing a question asked by another poster. It seems to me that anyone doing an interview after 22hrs of press, flight, or sitting on the toilet, is not his right mind to be doing another interview right behind it and give correct information. I hope I have explained it to you.