Captain America: The Winter Soldier pre-release thread

[RoJoHen]

Well, as someone who is NOT familiar with the comics, the conversation in this thread has already spoiled me more than I would have liked. Boo.

[Christopher]

CaptainCanada wrote:

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If they're going with General Lukin as the man behind Winter Soldier like it was in the comics (the animated series had Bucky working for a newly-returned Red Skull, which would also work in the movie if they felt like it)....

Aaa, spoilers! We Americans are still only halfway through the current season of Avengers: EMH. We only just saw "Secret Invasion" today. So please be more cautious in the future when discussing the second half of the season. (Although I'd actually already guessed that the guy WS was answering to in the first Red Hulk episode was probably the Skull...)

[Captain Craig]

RoJoHen wrote:

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Well, as someone who is NOT familiar with the comics, the conversation in this thread has already spoiled me more than I would have liked. Boo.

Think of it as a chance in the next two years to pick up the Winter Soldier storyline by Brubaker. Maybe in the reading it will build some anticipation for you. Not to different than reading a book before release. I know I've done that as recently as Hunger Games.

[RoJoHen]

Captain Craig wrote:

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Think of it as a chance in the next two years to pick up the Winter Soldier storyline by Brubaker. Maybe in the reading it will build some anticipation for you. Not to different than reading a book before release. I know I've done that as recently as Hunger Games.

I always have that intention, and then I never get around to reading whatever it is. I'm sure I'll survive.

[Turtletrekker]

Something that would be really cool on a fanboy level (but less so if your name is Chris Evans), would be to end this movie with Cap's "assassination" by the Red Skull, thus setting up the "The Death of Captain America/Reborn" storyline for Cap 3 -- but do Avengers 2 inbetween them using Bucky/Cap.

[Dream]

CorporalCaptain wrote:

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If it could be Captain America, Episode 2: "The Winter Soldier", wouldn't that square the circle?

That title feels too much like ripping off Star Wars.

[CorporalCaptain]

Heh.

That's why I went Arabic on the numeral.

[Christopher]

Dream wrote:

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That title feels too much like ripping off Star Wars.

Well, Star Wars's use of "episode" numbers was just imitating the Saturday matinee serials of the '40s anyway. And there actually was a Captain America serial from Republic in 1944, although it had virtually nothing in common with the comic beyond the name and costume. So one could argue that Cap has a prior claim to the format.

[Guy Gardener]

Google tells me that Brubaker insists that the Winter Solder did not kill Kennedy.

Wouldn't that be a chilling way to begin the movie though?

[Gaith]

^ No. "[x] really killed Kennedy" has become a grating cliche, with, Zeus willing, the Watchmen movie finishing it off. Heck, The Onion commented on the banality years ago:

[jbny67]

What are the chances that the story will be changed to replace the soviets with hydra?

[Skywalker]

I'd say about 50/50. I don't really see a need to do so, though it'd likely depend on who else they bring in on the villain side. If it's Alexander Lukin, then they'd probably stick with the Soviets. If they decide to tie Winter Soldier to someone else, say, Baron Zemo, then obviously it'd be HYDRA instead.

In some ways, the story already was changed to HYDRA. It's been hinted that Bucky survived that fall into the frozen river because of the experiments Arnim Zola performed on him.

[JD]

^Yeah, and they even seemed to subtly set that up in CA: TFA when they went through Zola's lab during Cap's rescue.

[CorporalCaptain]

Skywalker wrote:

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It's been hinted that Bucky survived that fall into the frozen river because of the experiments Arnim Zola performed on him.

Yes, the outcome of those experiments was a prominent dangling thread. Also, according to formula, when a character "dies" like that, he generally survives, because in some way all is not what it seems.

[Turtletrekker]

Falcon!