Urban outs the villain. Maybe. - Page 10

indranee · July 15 2012, 05:21 AM

Bob Orci said that both Alice Eve and Cumberbatch are playing Canon characters. Has that been talked about here yet?

I'm thinking Eve as Carol Marcus. I'm leaving the Cumberbatch thing alone. No use driving myself even further up the wall.

Kruezerman · July 15 2012, 05:26 AM

I'm still thinking Section 31 is in here SOMEWHERE. The organization itself reeks of plot and cinema deliciousness.

The Wormhole · July 15 2012, 05:32 AM

indranee wrote:

Bob Orci said that both Alice Eve and Cumberbatch are playing Canon characters. Has that been talked about here yet?

I'm thinking Eve as Carol Marcus. I'm leaving the Cumberbatch thing alone. No use driving myself even further up the wall.

Actually, Alice Eve is playing a "new to canon" character, whatever the hell that means. Presumably, it's just his maddeningly cryptic way of saying new character.

Kruezerman · July 15 2012, 05:38 AM

The Wormhole wrote:

indranee wrote:

Bob Orci said that both Alice Eve and Cumberbatch are playing Canon characters. Has that been talked about here yet?

I'm thinking Eve as Carol Marcus. I'm leaving the Cumberbatch thing alone. No use driving myself even further up the wall.

Actually, Alice Eve is playing a "new to canon" character, whatever the hell that means. Presumably, it's just his maddeningly cryptic way of saying new character.

*buzzer*

TrekMovie.com: OK, I want to try and get something out of you that is actually new about the movie. Kind of like you did on the radio show but I will name a guest actor in the sequel and you will say if they are playing a new character you created or one from the original Star Trek canon.

Roberto Orci: OK, I’ll play.

TrekMovie.com: OK let’s start with Alice Eve. Canon or new?

Roberto Orci: Canon

Saul · July 15 2012, 06:38 AM

Eve and Cumberbatch are playing canon characters. So someone we have seen before. Marcus and Khan?

Admiral Buzzkill · July 15 2012, 07:09 AM

Not Mitchell.

Kha-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-n!

Roberto Orci, screenwriter of the last and next Star Trek movies, confirmed to TrekMovie.com what Orci told me June 23 on KERN-AM radio: Benedict Cumberbatch will not play Gary Mitchell in the next Star Trek movie.
Karl Urban, who plays Dr. McCoy in the new movies, joked this week that Cumberbatch would be playing Mitchell. Many journalists took Urban’s comment seriously.
"He’s awesome, he’s a great addition, and I think his Gary Mitchell is going to be exemplary,” Urban jested when asked about Cumberbatch's Trek character during a "Dredd" promotion.
“I would say that I never lie,” Orci told TrekMovie when asked about his radio interview with me, “while Karl tests all those hypo spray props on himself.”
Numerous reliable non-Urban sources indicate that Cumberbatch is playing Khan Noonian Singh, the role created by Ricardo Montalban in the Trek TV series and the second Trek movie.

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Mach5 · July 15 2012, 11:59 AM

So basically, we ARE getting a TWOK redoux. In 3D.

Oh joy.

BillJ · July 15 2012, 01:50 PM

Mach5 wrote:

So basically, we ARE getting a TWOK redoux. In 3D.

Oh joy.

I still don't get why people think we're getting a remake? The motivation for Khan will have to be totally different as Kirk never stranded him in this timeline. Plus, Space Seed is too thin on story and too talkie for a modern action movie.

If it is Khan, we will be going down a totally different road with the character.

Saul · July 15 2012, 02:14 PM

Mach5 wrote:

So basically, we ARE getting a TWOK redoux. In 3D.

Oh joy.

No no, it's a Space Seed redux

King Daniel Into Darkness · July 15 2012, 03:12 PM

Cumberbatch will be playing DTI agent Lucksly, sent back in time from the 24th century on a desperate quest to repair the timeline. He can shrug off Spock's neck pinch and Uhura's phaser blast due to his sheer nerd rage at all the canon violations going on all around him.

Procutus · July 15 2012, 04:09 PM

KingDaniel wrote:

He can shrug off Spock's neck pinch and Uhura's phaser blast due to his sheer nerd rage at all the canon violations going on all around him.

Mach5 · July 15 2012, 04:15 PM

BillJ wrote:

I still don't get why people think we're getting a remake?

It may not technically be a "remake", but they are revisiting something that's already been done.

But then again, to expect originality from the gang that brought us Transformers II wouldn't be very realistic, or fair FTM.

I just hope (nu)Klingons play important role in the movie. Wouldn't hurt to see some Romulans either. Real, BoT type Romulans, not tattooed roughnecks.

CorporalCaptain · July 15 2012, 04:19 PM

"Klingons" have already been done. Not counting I:TMP and IV:TVH, and not counting a film just because Worf's in it, we've got III:TSFS, V:TFF, VI:TUD, VII:GEN. Why, that's 40% of the pre-nuTrek films!

Jackson_Roykirk · July 15 2012, 04:48 PM

UFO wrote:

JarodRussell wrote:

Saul wrote:

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Still not convinced though... I have absolutely no idea now who is the villain.

Maybe you won't even know who the villain is after you've seen the whole film.

Hey, that's exactly the kind of subtly nuanced story I'm looking for ...

Moral ambiguity can make for an interesting story.

BillJ · July 15 2012, 04:57 PM

Mach5 wrote:

BillJ wrote:

I still don't get why people think we're getting a remake?

It may not technically be a "remake", but they are revisiting something that's already been done.

But then again, to expect originality from the gang that brought us Transformers II wouldn't be very realistic, or fair FTM.

I just hope (nu)Klingons play important role in the movie. Wouldn't hurt to see some Romulans either. Real, BoT type Romulans, not tattooed roughnecks.

Wait a minute...

You have a problem with them using Khan who we haven't seen on screen in thirty years, but have no problems with Klingons and Romulans being in it? Those two have been used over and over and over again in the last forty-five years.

I really don't understand...

July 15 2012, 05:21 AM	#136
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CorporalCaptain Vice Admiral Location: In pre-production	Re: Urban outs the villain. Maybe. "Klingons" have already been done. Not counting I:TMP and IV:TVH, and not counting a film just because Worf's in it, we've got III:TSFS, V:TFF, VI:TUD, VII:GEN. Why, that's 40% of the pre-nuTrek films! __________________ John Last edited by CorporalCaptain; July 15 2012 at 04:33 PM.