Urban outs the villain. Maybe.

[Aragorn]

Ryan8bit wrote:

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I believe it was Orci who made reference to Terminator 2. The movie plays out in a way that you're not supposed to know that Arnold is the bad guy, but everybody knew that anyways. He'd imagined that the movie would have been so much better if that particular point hadn't been spoiled.

Hell, the T2 trailers pretty much spoiled that right out of the gate. Trailers these days give away too much plot detail.

[Sindatur]

Shape-Shifter wrote:

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But some do want that. By them not offering that choice they are potentially disheartening a portion of the fan base. No one has their arm twisted to view spoilers, they are avoidable if one so chooses. Either way, the importunity for all to choose for themselves should be considered. IMO

That's fine. These are your choices to make. However, again, the way Abrams does things causes a portion of the fan base to be denied the opportunity to choose for themselves.

Agreed, absolutely some will. And surely not just 'plot twists'. Every aspect of revealed information will be fair game for the Microscope Crew to examine and express their opinions of for better or worse. It would then become the individual burden to read those opinions or not.

It's interesting, though, how often people who claim desire to remain spoiler free are so often found browsing and posting in this forum, in threads which the very titles warn of spoiler potential inside.

Actually, no, you can't avoid spoilers, entirely, unless you lock yourself up in a cave, once information becomes available.

I have no problem with minor spoilers, such as who the villian is, or who the guest stars are. What I don't want to know is big things, like So and So dies, or Vulcan will be blown up, or Starfleet is decimated by a Borg attack. If that kind of information gets out, people will be shouting it from the rooftops, without spoiler warnings.

The movie makers have decided what information they want to let out, and what would be spoiled by certain things coming out. So, no, you don't have the right to choose that for yourself, since what information is known ahead of time, is part of the Creative Process.

There are some, who's appreciation for the movie will not be affected by having the read the script in advance, but, there are alot more who seek out that kind of information, and it does change their first time viewing experience, which is indeed bad for word of mouth advertizing/marketing

[Lonemagpie]

Greg Cox wrote:

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You're right. I should probably post my first drafts as well, just so that everybody can get an early look at the rough versions.

Or post pictures of the behind the scenes progress: where you're typing, where typing you are, where some typing is going on...

All sounds terribly exciting, doesn't it?

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Shape-Shifter wrote:

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That's fine. These are your choices to make. However, again, the way Abrams does things causes a portion of the fan base to be denied the opportunity to choose for themselves.

Yeah...they're not entitled to that. Fuck 'em.

[Set Harth]

JWPlatt wrote:

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Such two-dimensional thinking... Do you believe the galaxy is spherical, or a flat spiral? In which direction is it stated that the Enterprise was traveling? Is the barrier only around the edge? Or the entire galaxy - above, below and around? Think about it.

Oh, this argument again. It didn't work when Saquist was trying to use it to rewrite the geography of STXI, it's not going to work now. But I do expect to see it again after STXII comes out.

[Mach5]

Gary Mitchell is my favorite Star Wars ever!

[Set Harth]

Gary Mitchell was a Sith before there was a Star Wars.

[Mach5]

JWPlatt wrote:

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Such two-dimensional thinking... Do you believe the galaxy is spherical, or a flat spiral? In which direction is it stated that the Enterprise was traveling? Is the barrier only around the edge? Or the entire galaxy - above, below and around? Think about it.

Just as the Earth has an equator, so too does the galaxy and we are about 14 light years above what's called the equatorial symmetry plane. As to the thickness of the disk, most current estimates put it at around 1,000 light years thick. Obviously our solar system lies very close to the galaxy's equator.
http://www.astrodigital.org/astronom...temgalaxy.html

So according to this, the Earth is 486 ly away from the nearest galactic threshold. Quite a journey, even at high warp, I'd say.

[Set Harth]

So white guy Benedict Cumberbatch with black hair and a Starfleet uniform is supposedly playing Starfleet white guy with black hair Gary Mitchell?

Nah, not buying it.

Khan.

[Mach5]

Set Harth wrote:

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So white guy Benedict Cumberbatch with black hair and a Starfleet uniform is supposedly playing Starfleet white guy with black hair Gary Mitchell?

Nah, not buying it.

Khan.

[ralph]

would it be a coincidence?

1- In the comic Spock uses the nerve pinch in Mitchell, he falls, loses some of the powers and Kirk shoots him with a phaser - In paparazzi photos, Spock tries to use the nerve pinch in Cumberbatch and fails.

2- In the comic Mitchell plays chess 3D with Kirk - in rumor Abrams was looking for a chess player to scene in the movie.

3- In the comic Mitchell's coffin is shot into space - Peter Weller talks about having a ship and being an executive.

[The Wormhole]

ralph wrote:

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would it be a coincidence?

1- In the comic Spock uses the nerve pinch in Mitchell, he falls, loses some of the powers and Kirk shoots him with a phaser - In paparazzi photos, Spock tries to use the nerve pinch in Cumberbatch and fails.

2- In the comic Mitchell plays chess 3D with Kirk - in rumor Abrams was looking for a chess player to scene in the movie.

3- In the comic Mitchell's coffin is shot into space - Peter Weller talks about having a ship and being an executive.

One thing we can be damned sure of right now is that the movie will not be a sequel to any of the comic books. It would be suicide for the movie to be a direct continuation of a comic book which only a small fraction of the Target Audience has read.

[Mach5]

The Wormhole wrote:

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One thing we can be damned sure of right now is that the movie will not be a sequel to any of the comic books. It would be suicide for the movie to be a direct continuation of a comic book which only a small fraction of the Target Audience has read.

Don't worry, I think Abrams knows that better than anyone.

[ralph]

In Trek Movie, Orci said:

"karl misspoke, however he only misspoke one word."

Opinions Sherlocks, rsrsrsrsrs.

[King Daniel Into Darkness]

Oooh, so he probably is Gary Seven. Which is odd, because Peter Weller looks FAR more like Gary Seven than Benedict Cumberbatch.