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Old July 9 2012, 07:04 PM   #16
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Re: Urban outs the villain. Maybe.

I'm pretty sure Urban is just being sarcastic. Unlike the others, he's actually watched the show and can make a joke like that.
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Old July 9 2012, 07:15 PM   #17
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Re: Urban outs the villain. Maybe.

Urban is joking.

Khan.
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Old July 9 2012, 07:23 PM   #18
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Re: Urban outs the villain. Maybe.

Maybe Cumberbatch entertains them all with his Gary Mitchell impressions between shooting scenes.
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Old July 9 2012, 08:45 PM   #19
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Re: Urban outs the villain. Maybe.

If Cumberbatch is playing the role, then it makes more sense for him to be playing that character than Khan. Also, Mitchell requires nothing much in the way of backstory for the uninitiated, unlike Khan, who worked in Trek 2 (the real Trek 2!) because his backstory had already been established.

However, I will remain skeptical because like a lot of folks here, I suspect all these villain rumors are part of a carefully orchestrated campaign to keep us wound up.

And in the end, it will be Q.
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Old July 9 2012, 09:07 PM   #20
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Temis the Vorta wrote: View Post
If Cumberbatch is playing the role, then it makes more sense for him to be playing that character than Khan. Also, Mitchell requires nothing much in the way of backstory for the uninitiated, unlike Khan, who worked in Trek 2 (the real Trek 2!) because his backstory had already been established.
It took five minutes to lay out the character in The Wrath of Khan. Everything you needed to know was presented on what was left of the Botany Bay.

I'm positive the uninitiated had little trouble following TWOK.

So Khan, Mitchell or a new guy, they're still going to spend five to ten minutes on character exposition and motivations.
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Old July 9 2012, 09:40 PM   #21
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Re: Urban outs the villain. Maybe.

My theory:

*The nuTrek creators (except for Abrams) are avid Trek fans (most of the series)
*They enjoy putting in "Easter eggs" and other homages (Tribbles, Admiral Archer's prize beagle in the first film)
*Cumberbatch's villain is A) wearing a Starfleet uniform and B) can withstand being hit by Spock...HARD...as well the Vulcan nerve pinch.
*This movie's scale has been touted as being much more expansive than the previous movie.

So I take that info and interpret it to mean not Khan, not Gary Mitchell, but...

...Trelane 2.0.

He's wearing a Starfleet uniform because he's posing as a human being and wants to manipulate the crew of the Enterprise.

And Trelane wearing a Starfleet uniform would be a nice homage to Q's frequent donning of Starfleet uniforms.

I'm going with my theory until proven otherwise...
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Old July 9 2012, 10:36 PM   #22
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Re: Urban outs the villain. Maybe.

Well if true, I'd be delighted, as I was hoping for Mitchell all along (Orci's denial aside... What do we expect him to say?)



That said, I'd be just as happy if Cucumberpatch was playing Garth of Izar or even an android (which would explain his strength).

It'll be interesting to see what kind of rebuttals Urban's comment generates in the days to come.
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Old July 9 2012, 10:51 PM   #23
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Wow. That's...anti-climatic.
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Old July 9 2012, 11:06 PM   #24
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Wow. That's...anti-climatic.


That fact that Urban let it slip, or that BC may be playing Mitchell?


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Old July 9 2012, 11:10 PM   #25
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Re: Urban outs the villain. Maybe.

So, if it does turn out to be Gary Mitchell, will they change it from passing the Galactic rim, to some other Intra-Galactic Anomaly? Which would have more people upset? Warp Drive fast enough to get them outside the Galaxy in such a short period of time (As in TOS), or making Warp Drive speed comparable to later Series and doing an anomaly within the Galaxy instead?
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Old July 9 2012, 11:36 PM   #26
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Which would have more people upset? Warp Drive fast enough to get them outside the Galaxy in such a short period of time (As in TOS)...
Such two-dimensional thinking... Do you believe the galaxy is spherical, or a flat spiral? In which direction is it stated that the Enterprise was traveling? Is the barrier only around the edge? Or the entire galaxy - above, below and around? Think about it.
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Old July 9 2012, 11:39 PM   #27
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Will the person(s) who says Abrams & Co have never outright lied to us please stand up and be counted for spitball practice?

Actually, I think this is a bit of Karl Urban sense of humor, intentionally choosing from among the exclusion list. "Oops, did I say that out loud? Oh, darn. I guess the Tribble is out of the bag now. <wink>"
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Old July 9 2012, 11:53 PM   #28
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Wow. That's...anti-climatic.


That fact that Urban let it slip, or that BC may be playing Mitchell?


That BC might be Gary Mitchell. I didn't think Mitchell was that popular to be brought back. If they were to bring back one of the old "classic" villains, I would want it to be Harry Mudd. And to be played by Jason Segel.
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Old July 10 2012, 12:00 AM   #29
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So, if it does turn out to be Gary Mitchell, will they change it from passing the Galactic rim, to some other Intra-Galactic Anomaly? Which would have more people upset? Warp Drive fast enough to get them outside the Galaxy in such a short period of time (As in TOS), or making Warp Drive speed comparable to later Series and doing an anomaly within the Galaxy instead?
They could just go to Delta Vega again, wherever it is.


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Old July 10 2012, 12:12 AM   #30
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Urban is joking.

Khan.
Indeed. This is a red herring.
Has everyone forgotten they were auditioning Hispanic actors before they settled on Benedict Cumberbatch - who comes across as a choice of casting against type.

I mean, does Benicio Del Toro strike anyone as the Gary Mitchell.

(Its been awhile since I posted here...)
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