The Dark Knight Rises Anticipation Station

[Admiral_Young]

Mystery figure is

Ra's Al Ghul

[stj]

Two note Batman theme?

Was that a typo or a misread?

[Agent Richard07]

I'm not going to read spoilers about that 8-year gap, but I've been thinking about it. I've been wondering if the gap is in the movie itself.

No spoilers ahead, just my speculation...

Maybe Batman is crippled by Bane, then "rises" again 8 years later. Just trying to piece together the events we saw in the trailers. Batman appears to be seriously injured by Bane, but then he appears to be well enough later on to team up with Catwoman. If this is what happens, it doesn't seem like something that can take place over a short period of time.

[Captrek]

Agent Richard07 wrote:

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I'm not going to read spoilers about that 8-year gap, but I've been thinking about it. I've been wondering if the gap is in the movie itself.

No spoilers ahead, just my speculation...

Maybe Batman is crippled by Bane, then "rises" again 8 years later. Just trying to piece together the events we saw in the trailers. Batman appears to be seriously injured by Bane, but then he appears to be well enough later on to team up with Catwoman. If this is what happens, it doesn't seem like something that can take place over a short period of time.

Also no spoiler just speculation, but I'll tag it as you did...

I was under the impression he retired immediately after the events of the previous film because he was troubled by the vigilantes with the hockey pads and shotguns, and others like them. After Harvey Dent went all serial killer, he feared everyone would want to be like Batman and nobody would want to be naïve fool who trusted the system. In the process of creating a symbol to terrify the bad guys, he inadvertently created a terrible role model to "inspire" the masses. So he preserved Dent as the positive role model and turned Batman into a villain and retired him in order to destroy the dangerous role model.

[Agent Richard07]

^ That's the popular theory. Guess we'll know for sure in two weeks.

[JD]

I noticed something when I was watching BB the other day, they pronouce Ra's Al Ghul differently than in some of the other appearances of the character. In BB they pronounced the first part almost like a ra cheer with an s at the end, but in Arkham City they say it like ray with the sh making almost a hissing sound. I'm pretty sure I've heard the AC pronunciation in other places, but I'm not entirely sure which is correct.

[Samurai8472]

The animated series was where I thought it was always Ray SHH! Ah Ghoul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9Nkh2G443A

When Batman Begins changed it I thought it was weird.

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Here's what I think will happen (at least in the most broad sense)

Batman is on the run having taken the blame for the death of Dent and the others. Bane uses various techniques to pull him out of hiding, including learning who he is. Upon doping so, he seriously injures him. Bruce plays into this, making it appear to the public like Bane succeeded in killing him so that he can "rise" again, operating as Batman in secrecy, since everyone thinks he's dead.

[JD]

Samurai8472 wrote:

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The animated series was where I thought it was always Ray SHH! Ah Ghoul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9Nkh2G443A

When Batman Begins changed it I thought it was weird.

Hmm, maybe Nolan and Goyer weren't familiar enough with Arabic and/or the character to know how to pronounce it.

[Samurai8472]

Reposting because most of what has been talked about on this page has been explained in the production notes

Spoiler for what's being discussed on this page

Christian Bale, who reprises the film’s title role, details, “In ‘Batman Begins,’ you
see the tragedy and the pain that motivates this angry young man, who feels useless
and is searching for a path—who wants to find out who he is and what he can become.
Then in ‘The Dark Knight,’ he’s discovered that path. He is useful; he is doing what he
imagines is the best thing for him to be doing in his life. Now, we are eight years on and
he has lost the one thing that gave him a purpose…until he is forced to deal with a new
threat to the city and to himself.”

nvek86 wrote:

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Lots of production notes have (officially) been released. They do of course contain spoilers, but mostly about the eight year gap:
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=92233

And (apart from the film itself) I can't wait to see a good making of about it - if I read that correctly the plane stunt in the prologue was mostly real.

Most of the production notes. About 30 pages in a .pdf

http://www.thedarkknightrises.com/do...ctionNotes.pdf

Miranda Tate/Talia pushes Wayne Enterprises to fund an enviromental project

“Miranda is somebody who is encouraging Bruce to use his
resources for the betterment of Gotham through an environmental project.

Spoiler for what it is

The Wayne Enterprises device originally built for the environmental project

I don't know if people will be groaning at the thought of the same trick being used twice like Batman Begins

"Aw jeez again?"

[Admiral_Young]

The animated series way of pronouncing that character's name is supposed to be the correct way. I do remember David Goyer giving an explanation of why they chose to pronounce it the way it is in the Nolan trilogy, but forget what it was now.

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

International TV spot with a good dose of new footage peppered in.

[trekkiebaggio]

There's a new book out which has a police report about the Joker's origin, and a little reference to Robin as well. IGN has an article about it.

It may not have any impact on TDKR at all, but there has been a lot of speculation about JGL's character so I suppose there could be a slight chance they use Robin's backstory for him. More likely it's just a cute reference for fans.

[JD]

Samurai8472 wrote:

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Miranda Tate/Talia pushes Wayne Enterprises to fund an enviromental project

Well that certainly makes the theory about who she really is sound a lot more likely, IMO at least.

[nvek86]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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The animated series way of pronouncing that character's name is supposed to be the correct way. I do remember David Goyer giving an explanation of why they chose to pronounce it the way it is in the Nolan trilogy, but forget what it was now.

There was a whole thread about the pronounciation here:
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=149377

In Summary: Depending on which dialect you use, both versions are correct.