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Old July 4 2012, 08:03 PM   #16
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Re: So.........Could Neelix cook or not?

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I think it makes it even worse in a way. Though I'd imagine Neelix to get better through the years as he starts to get to know his crew. But i do seem to remember scenes where he tries dishes from the Alpha quadrant. Though I coulda imagined that.
In "Learning Curve" he made some bluish cheese to try and make macaroni and cheese for someone. The same cheese that poisoned all the Bioneural gel packs.

And a later season 5 or 6 episode, I remember he gave half the crew heartburn with some chili.
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Old July 5 2012, 01:10 AM   #17
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People can cook certain foods better than others. Which could allow for sometimes it being good others times not so much.
Yep. I am pretty creative with chocolate. But last night I burned the fish - in the MICROWAVE! Still, I guess it was still slightly edible, since my cat did her damndest to steal it from me (yes, I still ate it).

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I think it also depended on what he had to work with. The running joke was how everything seemed to have leola root in it.
If I was one of the Maquis I'd have ejected his entire supply of leola into space.
I recently read a fanfic where Seven of Nine stole Neelix' entire supply of leola root, made a still in Cargo Bay 2, and started making vodka for the crew.
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Old July 5 2012, 01:17 AM   #18
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Re: So.........Could Neelix cook or not?

Maybe he was having a hard time - because of the clothes he wore. Talk about fashion disaster.
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Old July 5 2012, 01:21 AM   #19
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People can cook certain foods better than others. Which could allow for sometimes it being good others times not so much.
Yep. I am pretty creative with chocolate. But last night I burned the fish - in the MICROWAVE! Still, I guess it was still slightly edible, since my cat did her damndest to steal it from me (yes, I still ate it).

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I think it also depended on what he had to work with. The running joke was how everything seemed to have leola root in it.
If I was one of the Maquis I'd have ejected his entire supply of leola into space.
I recently read a fanfic where Seven of Nine stole Neelix' entire supply of leola root, made a still in Cargo Bay 2, and started making vodka for the crew.
Borgka?
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Old July 5 2012, 01:28 AM   #20
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The story is on fanfiction.net, if you want to look it up. Apparently vodka made from leola root is rather good.
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Old July 5 2012, 02:22 AM   #21
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"I try Betty, I try and I try and I try... No one is more trying than me."
I've used that. Someone owes you something and whines "I'm TRYING", and I shoot back "Yes, you are... very"
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Old July 5 2012, 02:42 AM   #22
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Re: So.........Could Neelix cook or not?

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I think it makes it even worse in a way. Though I'd imagine Neelix to get better through the years as he starts to get to know his crew. But i do seem to remember scenes where he tries dishes from the Alpha quadrant. Though I coulda imagined that.
In "Learning Curve" he made some bluish cheese to try and make macaroni and cheese for someone. The same cheese that poisoned all the Bioneural gel packs.
GET THIS CHEESE TO SICKBAY!!

The bitching annoys me. Get in the kitchen and help him if it's a matter of Talaxian taste being different. He's feeding a lot of people with limited fresh food. Nothing is burnt. He takes into account balance and nutrition. Replicators have spoiled them because they've been able to eat whatever they want exactly to their taste and now suddenly it's out of their control.
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Old July 5 2012, 02:45 AM   #23
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Re: So.........Could Neelix cook or not?

Obviously Neelix literally could cook, because we saw him do it. He looked like he knew what he was doing. On Talax, he could have been considered a master chef for all we know.

But not everyone is going to like his food. That doesn't mean he's a bad cook or anything, it just means that the crew doesn't like Talaxian cuisine (assuming that's what he was making).

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Replicators have spoiled them because they've been able to eat whatever they want exactly to their taste and now suddenly it's out of their control.
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Old July 5 2012, 01:12 PM   #24
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Obviously Neelix literally could cook, because we saw him do it. He looked like he knew what he was doing. On Talax, he could have been considered a master chef for all we know.

But not everyone is going to like his food. That doesn't mean he's a bad cook or anything, it just means that the crew doesn't like Talaxian cuisine (assuming that's what he was making).

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Replicators have spoiled them because they've been able to eat whatever they want exactly to their taste and now suddenly it's out of their control.
This.
Yea, that's always been my thought. He likely was a good cook, the crews Palette just wasn't accustomed to the taste of the spices and ingredients available to Neelix, the reason he eventually was known as a good cook, was because their taste adapted or he found tastes closer to what their taste was accustomed to
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Old July 7 2012, 08:53 PM   #25
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Obviously Neelix literally could cook, because we saw him do it. He looked like he knew what he was doing. On Talax, he could have been considered a master chef for all we know.

But not everyone is going to like his food. That doesn't mean he's a bad cook or anything, it just means that the crew doesn't like Talaxian cuisine (assuming that's what he was making).

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Replicators have spoiled them because they've been able to eat whatever they want exactly to their taste and now suddenly it's out of their control.
This.
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Old July 7 2012, 08:59 PM   #26
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I'm still trying to get over the "hair pasta" thing.
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Old July 8 2012, 12:20 AM   #27
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Get in the kitchen and help him if it's a matter of Talaxian taste being different. He's feeding a lot of people with limited fresh food. Nothing is burnt. He takes into account balance and nutrition. Replicators have spoiled them because they've been able to eat whatever they want exactly to their taste and now suddenly it's out of their control.
Totally agree! I always thought the comments about his cooking were cheap shots. In my house, if you don't like the cooking, fine go ahead and take a turn for a few weeks!
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Old July 30 2012, 10:13 PM   #28
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I bet there were plenty of better coocks on Voyager.
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Old July 30 2012, 11:14 PM   #29
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Re: So.........Could Neelix cook or not?

Yes but they had other jobs to do.

If I was transported to Voyager in the Delta quadrant I'd end up a cook too since I couldn't do anything else. I couldn't even teach Naomi since I wouldn't know any Federation history or the maths etc.. I'd be like well... vegetables. Vegetables I know. Sure most of them are very different vegetables but just let me have a taste and I'll figure out what to do with it.

Imagine if you took someone who knew no earth foods and gave them a bunch of vegetables. They might make some interesting assumptions. They might use carrot puree as a basis for lots of soups whereas you would think potato was a more obvious choice. That kind of mixing around what quantities we normally think of as making a balanced dish.
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Yes but they had other jobs to do.

If I was transported to Voyager in the Delta quadrant I'd end up a cook too since I couldn't do anything else. I couldn't even teach Naomi since I wouldn't know any Federation history or the maths etc.. I'd be like well... vegetables. Vegetables I know. Sure most of them are very different vegetables but just let me have a taste and I'll figure out what to do with it.

Imagine if you took someone who knew no earth foods and gave them a bunch of vegetables. They might make some interesting assumptions. They might use carrot puree as a basis for lots of soups whereas you would think potato was a more obvious choice. That kind of mixing around what quantities we normally think of as making a balanced dish.
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